Won't work at hide...what to do???

[evolutionkennels]

I did see that video were this fellow had a long counter balanced Jenny. Had it set up were the dog was running and holding a hide type thing in his mouth off and on. Dog was working and breathing through sides of mouth and nose. Looked to be in great shape.

I said to myself boy I would hate to go into that dog with that type conditioning. A dog like that can go at you none stop for a good while if it does not get hurt early.

[evolutionkennels]

And for the record. 5 parties really regretted meeting him.

[evolutionkennels]

CYJ, was that the video you were talking about?

[EWO]

Nice set up. Running with the hide in the mouth would really train a dog to breathe while in hold. I am a big fan of anything that mimics the work used on show night. The stopping and fighting the hide and then starting again is huge. That video could explain a lot. EWO

[CYJ]

Ditto the jenny is the best way long as the weather is good. That can be said for walking as well. Some of the Dog men had extra big barns etc. to put a Jenny inside out of the weather. When the weather was good did use my Jenny every chance I got. But not no four hours. LOL

So it was a mixture of what the dog worked the over all best. I had a well built tread mill, 16 foot round table inside a large building along with the Jenny and Cable run outside. I never worked many dogs due to the type job I had. A few did O.K. on the others best to have stayed home.

I let V. Jackson handle 99.9% of it because he was much better at it and had the time. Not counting one hell of a set up to Road work a dog with plenty of young marines to help him. Lot of what I have mentioned on here is what I learned by watching what V.J. did. P. Powell of Termite Fame was helped along by V. Jackson. Both were in the Marines and stationed on the same Base. V.J. was a Supply Staff Sargent and Powell was a DI Staff Sargent.

[R2L]

Personally i don't do any hide work. No place for a jenny in the city, and i was told springpole work demands to much of a dog in keep. I do keep some extra weight on the neck and give the dog a kong for 30 minutes every day. I do feel you guys that this mimics the real work, so you got me thinking of doing some light springpole work in the first 4 weeks of the keep.

Talking about resting, hope i don't go to much offtopic with this question but it had me thinking. If you got a dog with a high prey drive, pulling the leash hard, and you live in the city. Would it be better to keep the dog in the cold outside in the kennel during the keep and only walk it once a day on weighing time, so it can have maximum rest. Or would you choose to keep it at a calm/warm place inside, yet you have to walk the dog 3 times a day, also on its resting day.. but the dog will never be easy on the leash. Hoping for some good advice.

[evolutionkennels]

Personally i don't do any hide work. No place for a jenny in the city, and i was told springpole work demands to much of a dog in keep. I do keep some extra weight on the neck and give the dog a kong for 30 minutes every day. I do feel you guys that this mimics the real work, so you got me thinking of doing some light springpole work in the first 4 weeks of the keep.

Talking about resting, hope i don't go to much offtopic with this question but it had me thinking. If you got a dog with a high prey drive, pulling the leash hard, and you live in the city. Would it be better to keep the dog in the cold outside in the kennel during the keep and only walk it once a day on weighing time, so it can have maximum rest. Or would you choose to keep it at a calm/warm place inside, yet you have to walk the dog 3 times a day, also on its resting day.. but the dog will never be easy on the leash. Hoping for some good advice.

Everything else being equal, inside a room temperature place conserving energy puts more nutrients into building muscle and endurance, rather than just trying to keep warm.

[EWO]

I think it is better to be inside. If he is worked, supplemented and then put inside in the warm his body will use the nutrients/supplementation as they were intended. If he is kept outside there will be a certain amount of shivering (temperature dependent). Thus there will be a certain amount of energies dedicated to keeping warm instead of recharging.
The dog will still be able to rest in that environment if there is a set to routine. If he comes out of the box, goes straight to his dump place, dumps and then gets put back up he can rest sufficiently in between. If his rest days are long walks where he is pulling to several different spots to try to dump/empty then that may interfere with rest. Either situation can work and both have worked for others. If you are locked in to your situation ( city/urban/country/farm) then the idea is to find what works for you and your dog. I would say make the routine that fits and stick to it. EWO

Personally i don't do any hide work. No place for a jenny in the city, and i was told springpole work demands to much of a dog in keep. I do keep some extra weight on the neck and give the dog a kong for 30 minutes every day. I do feel you guys that this mimics the real work, so you got me thinking of doing some light springpole work in the first 4 weeks of the keep.

Talking about resting, hope i don't go to much offtopic with this question but it had me thinking. If you got a dog with a high prey drive, pulling the leash hard, and you live in the city. Would it be better to keep the dog in the cold outside in the kennel during the keep and only walk it once a day on weighing time, so it can have maximum rest. Or would you choose to keep it at a calm/warm place inside, yet you have to walk the dog 3 times a day, also on its resting day.. but the dog will never be easy on the leash. Hoping for some good advice.

[grindhard]

never picked any teeth off the floor,however that 17 days out is very helpful to me

[R2L]

Thanks for shining your light evo/ewo.