Why the Jenny?

[DryCreek]

The only focus of using a slate mill is to increase heart and lung longevity.Unless you own a mill with a brake.The brake can be used to create more tension on the front wheels which deflects pressure to make your hound have to work harder to spin that Slat mill.
It is not completely like using a carpet mill but damn close.
When conditioning a dog. The more exercises he or she is involved in will bring you closer to what you are trying to achieve.I find walking a dog for hours on end is just over rated.I walk a dog to empty and that's it. Once he or she is empty, we start the serious stuff.
JM2C

[bolero]

The only focus of using a slate mill is to increase heart and lung longevity.Unless you own a mill with a brake.The brake can be used to create more tension on the front wheels which deflects pressure to make your hound have to work harder to spin that Slat mill.
It is not completely like using a carpet mill but damn close.
When conditioning a dog. The more exercises he or she is involved in will bring you closer to what you are trying to achieve.I find walking a dog for hours on end is just over rated.I walk a dog to empty and that's it. Once he or she is empty, we start the serious stuff.
JM2C

it depends on how u hand walk if u got a dog that wont do anything but that u can grab a 30 ft lead and hit the trails letting the dog sprint walk and chase things and that dog should be good especially if u add resistance

[Jon P. Lebron]

How does conditioning a dog on a jenny differentiate from a dog conditioned with flirt pole? It seems like they would be similar type of work, both are on the ground, with both the dog has a more natural gate. I would actually think that with the flirt pole the dog gets better coordination and reflexes.

[CRISIS]

your actually right on john! coordination is a key factor in the sport.....it is used more the coordination excercise than it is for cardio.......

a lot of folks mistake flirt work for cardio (or worse resistance), while it does provide a higher heart rte anytime your dog is working....sometimes people play tug with theyre flirt pole (which i never do personally) it really the coordination your after.....

what i do is i make em work for it, when they finally catch it i let go and praise (it theyres now! they earned it), teaching that hard work pays off........

most of my flirt sessions dont really go past 15 or so mins for the adults......

for pups, ill play with em for 5 mins or so to keep it fun for them.....


jenny= sprintwork, cardio workout
flirt= mind excercise with minimal cardio

[Officially Retired]

jenny= sprintwork, cardio workout
flirt= mind excercise with minimal cardio

Totally disagree. A flirtpole provides major cardio if you're doing it right. 5 minutes is not doing it right.

[Jon P. Lebron]

Totally disagree. A flirtpole provides major cardio if you're doing it right. 5 minutes is not doing it right.

I have to agree with Jack on this, the flirt pole sessions I give my dog give him a great cardio workout. The session is 10 minutes, but the method allows for him to go all out every time. This is how it goes,

First round
60 sec work
60 sec rest
60 sec work
60 sec rest
60 sec work
60 sec rest
60 sec work
60 sec rest

Second round
45 sec work
45 sec rest
45 sec work
45 sec rest
45 sec work
45 sec rest
45 sec work
45 sec rest

Third round
30 sec work
30 sec rest
30 sec work
30 sec rest
30 sec work
30 sec rest
30 sec work
30 sec rest

Fourth round
15 sec work
15 sec rest
15 sec work
15 sec rest
15 sec work
15 sec rest
15 sec work
15 sec rest

I got this from a strength and conditioning boxing trainer, I personally used it for my training. By the fourth round he is completely exhausted, I follow it by a 30 min cool down walk. During the rest periods I have him walking next to me.

[CRISIS]

Totally disagree. A flirtpole provides major cardio if you're doing it right. 5 minutes is not doing it right.

Your right, it will gas the hell out of them.... But there are better cardio routines IMO, unless FP is the only thing that works than sure....i just believe its main benefits is the stop & go, & coordination it helps......maybe i was unfair about saying minimal cardio.......

5 minutes IS doing it right when your breakin in a pup to it! Keep it fun, keep it short..........it isnt like folks work pups like theyre in keep...just teaching em the tools of theyre trade & keep em wanting it.

[Officially Retired]

Your right, it will gas the hell out of them.... But there are better cardio routines IMO, unless FP is the only thing that works than sure....i just believe its main benefits is the stop & go, & coordination it helps......maybe i was unfair about saying minimal cardio.......
5 minutes IS doing it right when your breakin in a pup to it! Keep it fun, keep it short..........it isnt like folks work pups like theyre in keep...just teaching em the tools of theyre trade & keep em wanting it.

I guess everyone's technique is different, but dogs will gas out quick on a flirt pole ... and the side-to-side muscle-conditioning adds benefits that straight running can't duplicate IMO.

Jack

[CRISIS]

I guess everyone's technique is different, but dogs will gas out quick on a flirt pole ... and the side-to-side muscle-conditioning adds benefits that straight running can't duplicate IMO.

Jack

Tushay!

[CYJ]

Hello TFX. That was V. Jackson's main way of working his dogs. When he was much younger and lived in Beaufort S.C. He had miles and miles of long soft dirt roads back in the Paris Island Marine base. Wide enough to run two tanks or maybe three.

He was a Supply Staff Sargent and could get or have anything made he wanted. He had the marine mechanics take his old Ford or Chevy Truck and put a speed govern on it. That he could work inside the Truck. He got the Welding shop to make a long arm apparatus that fitted over the hood of the truck. Could be put on and taken off. The arm went far enough out to prevent the dog from getting run over. V.J. could sit in the truck watch the dog. Talk to it when it needed some praise or encouragement.

V.J. fixed a leash hook set up. Where he could release the dog to do 100 to 150 ft. wind sprints. This would occur when the dog saw the shining eyes of the possum in the head lights. A pit dog will sprint like a bat out of hell to get a possum. LOL Ease up along side of dog break dog off possum. Then a short walk to cool down. Right back to road work. The possums would vary from night to night. May have been thousands of possums in that swamp. Never run out of possums. LOL

Would build those dogs up depending on size to be able to lope non stop except for possum sprint stops and urinating stops. For up to 5 miles to 10 miles. Mileage would vary according to type of dog and it's size.

Bad weather days would take dog into Base during day. Had plenty of empty large hanger bay type buildings to access. Would get some of those young marines to hand walk them and jog them. Evening time used his slat mill which was under a small shed.

The rest was good feed. He did not win all his matches. Had a very good win loss record though. The dogs that lost did not lose due to poor conditioning. When he got back to Texas his whole world changed. He was a lot older and went from the humid South East to dry desert type weather in Texas. He had to learn a whole new bag of dog tricks. Like me his get up and go had got up and went. LOL

Many ways to skin a cat and many ways to work a dog. Lots of natural running/sprinting and trotting is hard to beat. It takes a pack of hounds awhile to catch a Wily Coyote. They stay in shape the natural way. LOL