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    Gotan, so starting from what rbc value you think will disadvantage a dog?
    I know of dogs that went with higher then 10, which is way above normal values, with no problems.
    Building of vitamin b to prevent blood getting to thick makes no sense for me, its a innocent blood builder.
    Again, the danger lays in hct.

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    Taking B vitamins isn't going to cause a mass concentration of RBC. The only way you have a concentration the way you describe is through dehydration, Gotap. It's called hemoconcentration. You are right about what you describe, but you just have the reasoning behind it wrong.

    Athletes train at altitude to induce polycythemia to increase their RBC count so when they go back to sea level, they have an increased ability to transport oxygen. R2L is right in saying the danger lies in the HCT levels, not the actual RBC levels themselves.

    But you, nor your dog, are gonna develop life threatening polycythemia from B vitamins.

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    Im telling you guys the problems that arise from too much rbc in the body and you guys feel that the main problem is the HCT levels being too high. HCT measures the amount of RBC in the blood. For example, a hematocrit of 25% means that there are 25 milliliters of red blood cells in 100 milliliters of blood.

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    I wouldnt dry my dog out excessively but i would to some degree dry my dog out to help with clotting in case of a bleeder being hit. Whether someone does it intentionally or unintentionally if you give your dog something to prevent swelling before a show or help with clotting they are removing liquids from their dog and drying the dog to some degree.

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    Why not just use vita k in your feed ,that naturally stops bleeding If cut by a hog

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    Why not just use vita k in your feed ,that naturally stops bleeding If cut by a hog
    You are right. That could be an alternatve to help clot a cut but it wouldnt help with any swelling?

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    There are herbs that help that and minerals

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    Quote Originally Posted by waccamaw View Post
    There are herbs that help that and minerals
    This is the purpose of forums. Im glad to see a difference in opinions and im always willing and trying to learn more. I dont know of any herbs or minerals that would be yoused for that so if you font mind would you post them or pm me.

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    I can't tell everything ,but they are there you just got to do some research .

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    Gotap, HCT measures whether you have too many RBC or not enough. If a person's HCT is too high, they will usually draw blood from the person to decrease the amount of RBC that's in circulation. Read it for yourself.

    http://www.nlm.nih.gov/medlineplus/e...cle/003646.htm

    I work in the medical field.

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