Been there, done that. Smart people learn and adapt, while idiots do the same mistakes over and over again, not having a clue what went wrong. Once had a monster that would kill you in one bite. He was truly a freak. To bad he was just as stupid as he bit hard. Went as a freight train, met a dog that was smarter and quit on all four. Mouth can fool you, and will cost you bad LOL.Originally Posted by CA Jack
Yes I do!Fact of Life: Evolution favors the intelligent and those who never stop trying
Jack
Yes I do!
Good one Evo !
Also mouth is easier to breed into dogs than the other traits. (or so i have heard)
yea they sure dont prefer them because of the weightbut more socialized/self-assured generally
he meant in shape as well. reason i brought this up is because im interested what other think about this and if you would let(leave) particular things while raising the dog and maintaining the dog regarding their muscle development. let's take as an example 2 extremes of identical dogs. a dog who has never been taken of the chain for 3 years and a dog who's been walked/played with allot up to 3 years.which one would be shown at a higher weight. tho i realize some chain dogs move around all the day while others are very relaxed.
The smallest dogs for their weight I ever saw were the White Dog line.They were 1/2 high, 2 long, and you had to add another pound for the big ears. They were ridiculously game, and sometimes could bite, but they had to.do it on all 4's or from the floor on their backs, because they were terrible wrestlers. I always felt they started with a disadvantage to some extent, but they sure were game.
Imo a dog's natural weight has nothing to do with how they live. A 36 lbs dog is always a 36 lbs dog. If he's heavier the risk of runnig out of air is far greater. Get rid of that excessive muscle weight. It'll do more harm then help. JMHO.
im afraid of it too. the female i mentioned for example has very hard and full muscles, don't think it's just genetics. But i didnt compare enough to say whether it really matters regarding only the weight of a dog. . forget the whole chaindog/housedog thing. what i mean is would a similar dog be shown heavier because he was worked allot(to much) more during daily maintenance (outside the keep) sorry peeps, trying my best to type english.It'll do more harm then help
ps: that's just regarding the weight, i would be interested in other negative effects of excessive muscle as well, like lactic acid. but i will make a new topic for that.
I am going to agree with the skipper. A dogs working weight is his working weight no matter if he's in the house or on the chain. Every mammal has his peak conditioned weight. Theoretically, The only advantage of a house dog is that they have the POTENTIAL to be more intelligent because of the srtonger connections in thier brain given that they would have excercised it more due to more interaction with the owner and other family members. As a matter of fact, once you get to an animals ideal show weight, it's hard to change it even if you feed him more.
I've got a bitch at home now who is a 46 47 in shape female but when in shape she looks like a 60 lb dog. I was expecting her to be goofy and clumbsy as heck but she fooled me. With stupid athletic ability and annoying wind, she is also very very smart but even as a pup she was a escape artist who would watch me close the puppy pen then proceed to try and open it in different ways. until she finally figure out she had the ability to just jump over it. But her weight is also a problem because I could only get her in school once and no one else will take me up on schooling which sucks. Her conformation is damn near perfect and that has been proven via a few months of prancing around the show ring and picking up her ADBA CH. Her only flaw in that area according to them is that she is a tad long.
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