Humaniacs at it again.

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Personally, the government should be more concerned about controlling the population of the PEOPLE, not that of the animals that are native to an area. Not that I'm opposed to hunting, and I don't think this man can be faulted for anything, legally or ethically, I just think when it comes to animals like bears and large cats, the "over population" argument doesn't hold much water, ESPECIALLY when looking at the rate at which WE are reproducing and encroaching upon their habitats.

ETA: If I had read Jack's post above mine, I could've just agreed with most of it instead of posting. whoops

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It's okay to simultaneously express ourselves

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Ok there is a big difference between the purpose of the dept of wildlife its members and their views and that of the hsus. The aforementioned agency and its members are in no way anti hunting. The purpose is to protect animals not for their own sake but for the use of humans and future generations. Whether that is for hunting or taking pretty pictures. In contrast the hsus is a militant org. and its purpose is to protect animals for their own sake because they have "rights". They are against any kind of animal use and seek to fill their pockets with money given by the clueless. So again i dont think that guy was wrong for hunting in another state where it is legal and shouldnt lose his job over it. I do agree 100% that human populations should be controlled.

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Ok there is a big difference between the purpose of the dept of wildlife its members and their views and that of the hsus. The aforementioned agency and its members are in no way anti hunting.

Good rebuttal. As a matter of fact, Fish & Game gives out hunting licenses

The purpose is to protect animals not for their own sake but for the use of humans and future generations. Whether that is for hunting or taking pretty pictures.

Good point again.

In contrast the hsus is a militant org. and its purpose is to protect animals for their own sake because they have "rights". They are against any kind of animal use and seek to fill their pockets with money given by the clueless.

Well, I don't want to digress on the fact HSUS is a corrupt, militant organization. We all know that. Nor is the issue of legality even relevant.

For example, I could drawn a parallel to a leader in the Civil Rights Movement going to a KKK meeting in another state. No issues of legality at all, just a tremendously duplicitous act. Can you imagine what would happen to a white Civil Rights Leader's job if he came back from posting pictures of himself and his buds at a KKK meeting in another state?

The issue here really has nothing to do with legality; it has to do with a blatant conflict of interest in a leadership position. However, I think your underscoring the fact that Fish & Game actually controls hunting, so there would be no duplicity if some of its members do hunt--and go out of state to hunt animals they can't kill in their own state.

I do agree 100% that human populations should be controlled.

Yep.

Jack

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Good rebuttal. As a matter of fact, Fish & Game gives out hunting licenses





Good point again.





Well, I don't want to digress on the fact HSUS is a corrupt, militant organization. We all know that. Nor is the issue of legality even relevant.

For example, I could drawn a parallel to a leader in the Civil Rights Movement going to a KKK meeting in another state. No issues of legality at all, just a tremendously duplicitous act. Can you imagine what would happen to a white Civil Rights Leader's job if he came back from posting pictures of himself and his buds at a KKK meeting in another state?

The issue here really has nothing to do with legality; it has to do with a blatant conflict of interest in a leadership position. However, I think your underscoring the fact that Fish & Game actually controls hunting, so there would be no duplicity if some of its members do hunt--and go out of state to hunt animals they can't kill in their own state.





Yep.

Jack

Exactly...my point was not about legality just duplicity. The fish and game dept is not an organization but a govt/ state run agency with employees that enforce hunting laws as well as instruct hunting classes and give out licenses. So they dont have to be held to any standard that a public official would.

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I missed understanding of the function of fish and game in my first response. Did not think about that it was an organization set to control legal hunting activities ( not anti ). And as to where in one state there is laws against hunting certain species in another state it is free hunting so to speak, i understand that now. I was thinking more of chasing an endangered ( or close to ) species to hunt just for the sake of it.
TFX. of course to defend property or loved ones it doesn't matter what law is against you.

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It seems we have a greater degree of consensus and understanding now, which is good. Here is a follow up article outlining action taken by a couple of decent guys in the state senate to stop this nonsense.

http://www.utsandiego.com/news/2012/...rs-mountain-l/

[TFX]

I stand corrected that this guy is an employee. I think this Fish & Game Commission spot he holds is a volunteer position from what I have gathered, similar to my service on a local irrigation district board of directors in the past. However, it appears that the Commission elects their president. Basically, these positions on the commission are bought for a price, somewhere between $50,000-100,000. Don't you love the way government works!?

"California Assembly members, 40 Democrats, and the state’s Democratic lieutenant governor have asked Richards to resign his post on the California Fish and Game Commission, where Richards last month was elected president after a controversial vote. Wayne Pacelle, the leader of animal-rights activism as president and executive director of the Humane Society of the United States, led the resignation brigade charge."

Figures that Pacelle is sticking his nose where it doesn't belong as usual.