Okay, I musta skipped that.
My Truman dog refused to fight my Red Angel bitch also (so did Gr Ch Hank), screamed and hollared when she got on him (he was "in love" with her) ... but he hated males and went out DG to one.
Poncho, on the other hand, would kill a bitch same as a male.
Jack
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Yeah with a female they might have scrap cause he tried to mount her but wasn't really fighting to finish her. I would give him another shot.
The fact of this deal Jack is that he was in keep for #1 when this accident happened which caused a forfeit. He had already gone through a final schooling roll that was harder than any of his two shows. So the yard wreck was sandwiched in between a real display of gameness, and two highly impressive wins in top competition. He hurt three dogs in the wreck who were all 10-15 lbs smaller than him, and they did nothing to him that would have caused him to quit, but when he was done he went back the his chain spot loose and kicked back.
Every case is different, but I know that 4 walls makes a big difference with some dogs. A dog that quit in a yard accident or even a dog that killed one in an accident doesn't sway me much either way. Plenty of "yard accident killers" can't seem to duplicate the feat inside of 4 walls for whatever reason. I think some dogs although they will fight in a yard accident, really view it more like play time since the human bonding as a dog-handler team is taken out of the equation.
TFX,
I know what u mean when u say that they dont display in the woods what they display on the chain. I had a good one get killed in a kennel mishap & then the killer quit in under :30. What I didnt pay attention to is how the killer killed the good dog.
What happened was the killer got in the backend and streched out the other dog, yanked, pulled, & shook the dog until he choked the other dog out pulling him against the chain.
Did he kill the dog ? yes!
Is he a killer? Hell naw!
He didnt have his tag team partner,the chain, in the woods with him & thats why he quit
wildchild
Sounds more like he lacked finish/cannibalism than he quit.Originally Posted by TFX
True, and ultimately you are the best judge as you were there.
I think Wildchild gave a great account of how a non-finishing cur can "finish" one in a kennel wreck, by unfair advantage, but can't do the same thing with a badass dog his size in a box.
Jack
PS: Nice avatar w/ the old-timers, old-timer
another couple months of feed water and so on will not matter. wait and see for your self. He's yours. I had one get of the chain and get into her daughter. She walked off or was run off I beleive the latter but I have gotten good dogs from her . Oh yeah, that same daughter didn't make the grade she pulled up
I have to say I can understand ur delimma being it was an accident and u werent there, but once he got to fighting that faucet shouldnt of stopped running regardless the reason. jack i understand the different reasons a hound can cur. but that doesnt make it alright and if i come home to a yard accident the one who is loose better be dead or still competing!! If ur behind or back in ur box then there is a hound who is not deep game, and in my eyes not part of the program.
Y'all ever experienced a dog who got loose, but didnt try to "compete" with another animal? I mean got loose and ran by the others back to the house and just sat at the backdoor? Just curious. This is unrelated but I Gotta admit the funniest thing I ever witnessed with these dogs was I went out to feed my dogs one day and a male I have had slipped out of his collar but didnt realize it. Was running his chain space barking as usual. But wouldnt go any further then his chain would usually allow him. LMAO Then when he saw me walking towards him he tried to lunge against his chain like he does when excited and realized he was loose. Needless to say I had to take a chapter outta Clark Kent's playbook and lay out like Superman to detain him before he made contact with my old Frisco stud. He is hands down the dumbest animal I own. But he's honest himself.
Vdk
Not sure if this is similar to what your talking about or not but here's a vid of a well known bulldog palying with another male. Fast forward to 35 seconds.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CICoEAwxFUE
virgil would also sleep with a cat it is called not being a fight crazy idiot. personally i hate dogs like thaty and lkove the ones who will play with pups and chill wit a bitch. most here no bolero, well she and gr ch bronson wpould lay and choill on a couch together, to me that is wat a good bulldog is all about, now would i not take a talented dog if he was fight crazy hell no but i ,like dogs like bolero virgil two eyes stomper and that line in generall i s very docile around pups and dogs who are not turned on. to me that is a great sign of intelkigence and goes a long waty a lot of the greatest dogs were like this
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