GARNER'S CH DYNOMITE

[Officially Retired]

One very underrated producer was Baileys Bingo. This dog is behind almost all the modern Redboy dogs. Even though he wasn't a rom dog himself, he was able to produce producers and performers for generations that are still very competitive.

I wouldn't say he was underrated, pretty much everyone knows he's important to the Redboy strain.

What it is would be yet another example about how "POR" and "ROM" don't tell the whole story. Also, some dogs produce better when linebred upon than they do as individual stud dogs. My Truman dog threw mostly curs in the 2 breedings I did with him, but when his offspring were bred together (so I doubled-up on Truman) I got all-game (or nearly-all-game) litters.

Sometimes a particular stud dog needs something built around him to really shine as a producer.

Jack

[skipper]

I wouldn't say he was underrated, pretty much everyone knows he's important to the Redboy strain.

What it is would be yet another example about how "POR" and "ROM" don't tell the whole story. Also, some dogs produce better when linebred upon than they do as individual stud dogs. My Truman dog threw mostly curs in the 2 breedings I did with him, but when his offspring were bred together (so I doubled-up on Truman) I got all-game (or nearly-all-game) litters.

Sometimes a particular stud dog needs something built around him to really shine as a producer.

Jack

What I meant that he is very seldom up there with the names of important producers of the breed. Interesting point about Truman.

[Xavier101]

Lol

[R2L]

I think he won't talk about fighting at all, specially not to strangers. He's all business.

[R2L]

iv asked him for pictures of black velvet once. not even a reply that he didnt have it. >> tom garner <<

[skipper]

I agree. There is no doubt Frisco produced some top class animals. Especially with the lee ling breedings. But percentage wise, I find it hard to believe he would be up there with Buck, Yellow, Jeep and may other famous producing dogs. On the other hand, it would be interesting if more Frisco dogs would've ended up in more competitive hands. Garner sells dogs to almost anyone with the cash, hell my grandma probably could by dogs from him. It's like the saying: If you throw enough shit on the wall, some should stick. An impressive producer to me is one that in a few breedings make a big impact on the breed. Or one that produces solid bulldogs no matter what it's bred to.

[AmberLamps]

I must of caught Mr Garner on a good day when I emailed him, many moons ago.

I asked his opinion on which way to breed a Frisco/Snooty gyp I once owned; he couldn't of been more helpful and courteous.

[gabbagabbahey]

Likewise MTK,TG was more than helpful to myself in the past & answered my questions. Although i never asked on any particular dog.
No offence to the original poster,but if someone i never knew asked me questions in person,never mind on the phone,then i would not incriminate myself in any way & i would not incriminate anyone else. The laws may be different in our countries,but i know where i stand in mine. I know by my own personal circumstances that it is quite easy to record a phone call/calls. Thankfully i was being the person who was doing the recording & being oh so polite,trying to get what i wanted hehe.

[Officially Retired]

Possible recordings is one of the reasons I no longer make my phone publicly-accessible.

Besides the potential for recordings, not only do you sometimes never know who you're talking to, but even if every one of them is cool, stll, if 10 random dogmen call ... and you talk to each of them for :30 (and most dogmen talk longer than that, LOL) ... and before you know it 5 hours of your day are gone

So, for me, the best "time management tool" I ever implemented was changing my number and not making it accessible anymore

Jack

[bgblok68]

Lol You're right Jack. What should be a five minute call ends up 1-2 hours.