((( THE TRUTH ABOUT MASON'S CH HAMMER )))

[drz]

I agree with you 100%.

I can't call my conclusion "a fact" ... but what I can do is list the facts and let people understand why my "opinion" is what it is

Jack

PS: Nice to see you back.

Appreciate the welcome. Seems you're running a pretty classy ship over here. I'll tell you something. You had it so that part of this article could be read without a subscription. I probably read that excerpt a half dozen times. I was like Jack you friggin tease I think you got me. Then I noticed some knowledgable dogmen had all but gone missing from the other site and here I am. Just to let you know that "sample" concept works at least it worked on me.

[Officially Retired]

Appreciate the welcome. Seems you're running a pretty classy ship over here. I'll tell you something. You had it so that part of this article could be read without a subscription. I probably read that excerpt a half dozen times. I was like Jack you friggin tease I think you got me. Then I noticed some knowledgable dogmen had all but gone missing from the other site and here I am. Just to let you know that "sample" concept works at least it worked on me.

LMAO, yep, that was intentional ... because, sooner or later, curiosity gets the best of us all

Nice to have you back

Jack

PS: Hope the full article didn't disappoint

[drz]

Full article was very good. Were you also doing one on Buck? I spoke to one of the guys who I believe had Buck for his first show if not multiple shows. He says he believes the original papers were correct. I rarely if ever see a Buck down bred the way I'd like so it was never something I researched despite my curiosity. Anyway this thread is about Ch. Hammer and it was a great read.

[Officially Retired]

My full opinion on Buck is in my Hollingsworth Dogs book, but I suppose I could re-post it here in another thread. I also have a tape recording of Pat telling of Buck's real pedigree and why he made the switch

[Tony.R]

man that was a very very good read thx.

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Thank you--and you're welcome. Cheers.

[Officially Retired]

And, once again confirming my theory, it's amazing how much Patrick's Cheryl Tiegs and Vise-Grip's Missy look alike

Patrick's Cheryl Tiegs


Vise-Grip's Missy

When considering Ch Hammer and Tessy are brother/sister ... and if you further consider that Miss Trinx was 3/4 Lady In Red (a daughter of Little Tater) ... their pedigrees are basically identical ... mirror "flips" of each other.

And, if you look at the dogs themselves, they could be twins

Missy was only 16 months in her photo (and Tiegi is an old lady in hers), but I have photos of Missy in her later years and the two bitches are virtual clones of each other

Jack

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This is how they're each papered by the ADBA:

Cheryl Tiegs
Missy

This is how they're actually bred:

Cheryl Tiegs
Missy

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[skipper]

Said it before, missy was an awesome looker.

[Officially Retired]

Thank you.

She was my favorite and still the hardest scratcher and hardest mouthed female I've ever had ...