You are entitled to think what you want, but that doesn't make what you think accurate.Originally Posted by Dogman
It doesn't matter what "a lot of dogmen do," the fact is adding too much straight water to nutritionally-devalued pellets dilutes the dog's digestive juices, resulting in poor assimilation of whatever nutrition is left in those pellets.
Not so.
First of all, raw meat is 70% water, which means the water weight is more than 2:1 in ratio to the solid weight. Secondly, no one waters their kibble-fed dogs at a ratio of 2x water 1x kibble (which is what they'd have to do to equal raw).
Thirdly, kibble is harder to digest than the raw meat it started out as, so not only are you diluting the acid content of the stomach with a massive influx of artificially-introduced water, but the body has to work harder to digest the poorly-digestible kibble.
The FACT is, with raw, not only is the water contained within the meat (thereby being processed slowly in the stomach, rather than totally diluting the acid content with a bunch of uncontained water), but raw meat is simply easier to digest than ultra-cooked kibble. It is presented in its most digestible state, and all of the associated enzymes are still there to aid in the digestion.
You are simply mistaken on many different levels.
You are simply ignorant. And what you call "facts" is merely your total misunderstanding of what is going on in the stomach (not to mention your utterly ignoring the digestibility/nutritional differences between raw and processed kibbles).
"More water" all at once in the stomach is simply NOT GOOD. It is not good for digestion, and it does NOT solve the dehydration issue, because most of the water gets passed.
There will simply NEVER be a kibble-fed dog who "drinks less" than a raw-fed dog.
Again you are missing the point completely, as kibble-feeders are notorious for doing in their efforts at self-justification.
Yes, I agree, Orijen is better for a dog than Ol' Roy ... but it is NOT better for a dog than the same Orijen ingredients FED RAW.
Or are you trying to sit there with a straight face and say that the ingredients in Orijen, in dry/devalued kibbled form are "as nutritious" as they were in their ORIGINAL RAW form?
You are getting down to a pretty low level of debate here by calling me an AR activist. Worse, your analogy is ridiculous, and it really seems like you don't seem to be able to maintain focus on a single accurate point.
Case in point: a pharmaceutical-grade protein bar is not raw, nor is a juicy hamburger anywhere near as devalued as kibble is.
Therefore, you need to learn to make better associations in your mind before you can really understand what you're talking about.
A better analogy would be comparing a raw, wholesome carrot ... pulled up fresh out of the ground, washed, and eaten in its natural state ... to a dehydrated carrot in a Cup O' Noodles soup, where you have to "add water" to reconstitute what's left of the dehydrated carrot. Or trying to compare the nutritional value of a juicy steak ... to a dehydrated "meat pellet" in an army ration. There is simply no comparison in the nutritional value.
Yes, the raw veggies and juicy steaks are not only more enjoyable to eat, they are a thousand times healthier to eat as well ... than if they were cooked and totally dehydrated first, with water added later.
And there is no educated person who can deny this.
Jack
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