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Thread: CARBOHYDRATE LOADING

  1. #21

    Re: CARBOHYDRATE LOADING

    fat is a way better energy source.

  2. #22

    Re: CARBOHYDRATE LOADING

    Jack,
    In your book you break down the content of (water, protien, fat, carbs, fiber)
    in foods like poultry, venison, rabbit..

    im currious what the break down of beef is.

    And how many carbs should a working 45lbs. Dog consume while being conditioned.
    Goin off the thearyyou had about dogs on avsrge going 1h-2h most of the time. (It was the article you wrote about stats on dogs being over worked 5hrs.. and most matche not break the 1-2hr mark...

    any way getting back on topic. What whould the carb intake on a 45lbs. Dog conditioned for a 2.5-3 hr hunt. For an example...

    Dogs perform well off chicken, fish, beaver meat, rabbit/fat mix. All these last meals contain very lil carb content in them. Thats why i ask whats a good amount of cards.
    Maybe a break down of what a 35lb dog would need also for folks with smaller hounds.

    You have to understand a good amount before you can establish

  3. #23

    Re: CARBOHYDRATE LOADING

    Before you can figure out whats overloading..

  4. #24

    Re: CARBOHYDRATE LOADING

    Quote Originally Posted by Buck E. Owens
    Jack,
    In your book you break down the content of (water, protien, fat, carbs, fiber)
    in foods like poultry, venison, rabbit..
    im currious what the break down of beef is.
    And how many carbs should a working 45lbs. Dog consume while being conditioned.
    Goin off the thearyyou had about dogs on avsrge going 1h-2h most of the time. (It was the article you wrote about stats on dogs being over worked 5hrs.. and most matche not break the 1-2hr mark...
    any way getting back on topic. What whould the carb intake on a 45lbs. Dog conditioned for a 2.5-3 hr hunt. For an example...
    Dogs perform well off chicken, fish, beaver meat, rabbit/fat mix. All these last meals contain very lil carb content in them. Thats why i ask whats a good amount of cards.
    Maybe a break down of what a 35lb dog would need also for folks with smaller hounds.
    You have to understand a good amount before you can establish

    I am just about to launch the new software to completely change this entire site, which is taking up all of my time, but when I do I will come back here and answer this in detail (long response required).

    Jack

  5. #25
    Does a dog need simple carbs ( cytomax, gatoraid,) to replenish glucose in it's muscles like a person does before, after and during training?

  6. #26
    Quote Originally Posted by Oregonbulldog View Post
    Does a dog need simple carbs ( cytomax, gatoraid,) to replenish glucose in it's muscles like a person does before, after and during training?
    The short answer is, it depends. For short bursts, yes, but for longer endurance feats, no.

    First of all, dogs store glycogen in their muscles, not glucose. If you read the article, Running On Empty, Alaskan sled dogs are given a 60-70% fat diet, and travel incredible distances (100 miles/day), without ever seeming to get tired.

    The initial belief regarding canine conditioning and supplementation was to apply what is true about humans to dogs. However, what was found that the dog is unique and (where we cannot process fat-into-energy very well) the dog has a 400% greater capacity to pull turn fat into useable energy, and has a metabolism that prefers to draw from fat, even when carbs are available. This is in stark contrast to the human metabolism. In fact, here is a key quote:

    "Stranger still, by the later stages of a race like the Iditarod, glycogen stores actually increase, indicating that the dogs are relying almost exclusively on fats for fuel. It is as though a cellular switch is flipped following the first hard day of racing, after which the dogs’ muscles seem to prefer burning fats over carbohydrates."

    Therefore, current thinking is that dogs have a very minimal need for carbohydrates in long-distance affairs.

    Jack

  7. #27
    I said Joe Montania....that's what I ment So in competition a dog could use simple carbs because he is bursting short? And fat ,cuz he's processing it like no other, for the endurance?
    How much would you feed and what would you feed a dog (you pick the weight) before a competition? And what over the counter supplements too?

  8. #28
    Quote Originally Posted by Oregonbulldog View Post
    I said Joe Montania....that's what I ment So in competition a dog could use simple carbs because he is bursting short? And fat ,cuz he's processing it like no other, for the endurance?
    How much would you feed and what would you feed a dog (you pick the weight) before a competition? And what over the counter supplements too?
    Al that is in my book

    But I will get to it and post it all up here after awhile

    Jack

  9. #29
    Ok Jack it's been 3 months lol...

  10. #30
    LMAO, Touché

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