New GRAND CHAMPION – F2F and Solo’s El Titere 5XW – Son of CH Panthro 4XW

[Officially Retired]

I was laughing at the way in which R2L worded his reply, it was the fiction part that tickled me. But like it or not Jack (and I don't btw) it's commonly accepted by everyone in dogs, that a dog who loses a match either can't go for his Gr Ch title or would lose it if he's already attained it.

I am well-aware that the notion is commonly-accepted, and it was the sarcasm that I was referring to when I made my post. That is why I made it.

The mentality to trivialize a dog's accomplishments, and to reject the idea that a great dog can lose, is precisely why I made my post.

Your example of Robert T losing his Gr Ch title was a good one and it's equally preposterous of a dog not being given the opportunity to attain his Gr Ch title if he/she happened to lose one early in their career. An example would be Ch Silver, he waxed a gr ch, lost his second while sick, then went on to wax another 2 grand champions and a champion. But he could never go for a Gr Ch title, or ever be recognised as a Gr Ch because he had a loss on his record.

There are many examples of great dogs that have lost (as well as great human boxers who have lost), which is why discounting a dog's greatness (or all-time title) is preposterous. Jack Kelly is the one who originated the "rule" that any dog that loses cannot be a Grand Champion, and (as I said) the majority of bulldoggers follow this credo like lemmings, even though Jack Kelly and his mag are gone. It is an ignorant way to think IMO, and unfair to many great dogs. IMO, any dog that wins 5+ times in top competition is a "Grand" Champion, way beyond the normal competitor.

Anyone who stops to actually think about it for a second, can see it's absurd, but like i'v already said, it's become so commonly accepted and ingrained amongst dogmen, most wont even give it a second thought. It's simply just accepted as the way it is.

Well, that is exactly what I intended to do, and in fact did do, and that is de-rail the common mentality here, wipe the snicker off of some faces, and give a reality check

I don't subscribe to it but i understand the online sdj has alot of people reading it, so it potentially could have a big influence in the way dogmen think if an article was written regarding this outdated rule. Someone with your writing skills could change the way alot of people think if you ever chose to do an article on this.

That is a good idea, and the owner has asked me to write some articles for his mag, I just haven't gotten around to doing so yet. But that would be a great place to start.

Jack