Quote Originally Posted by gabbagabbahey View Post
Have to disagree on one part Jack,as i don't believe i am as bad as you say,"all" breeders are.
I never said all breeders are bad. What I said was that swimming was caused by kennel mismanagement and a combination of the two factors previously mentioned, and I stand by that statement, even though I have been guilty of it myself.

You can disagree if you want, but you asked for my opinion and that was it.



Quote Originally Posted by gabbagabbahey View Post
I also don't agree on reversing the surroundings to correct it. Far from as easy as that,but maybe we both witnessed different conditions.
If it wasn't easy to reverse, then you let it go on until the malady really sunk in.
It's like rickets: it's easy to cure if you're on top of things, but it can be irreversible if you're not.

Again, you have the right to disagree with me, but you asked for my opinion and (based on 20 years of experience raising more litters than 99.99% of any person alive), that is it.



Quote Originally Posted by gabbagabbahey View Post
My problem was noticed before 3 week & 3 week(ish) is my start to letting mum spend more time away,with gates locked. I always use bedding too.
As you said,a small litter don't help. Over heated pen & footing also.
Sounds like I was right yet again, as your pup was fat too.

What do you consider bedding/footing?

Sometimes bedding can be in, sparcely, but if there's not enough of it, the bedding gets pushed to the side, and so the fat pup "swims" in the center on the greasy wood/crate. So, technically there can be "bedding" in there, but not enough to keep the pup from slipping.

Jack