Quote Originally Posted by TFX View Post
Whoa! Just a minute here. Just because the guy works for Fish & Game does not mean he has to believe the laws are good or right, or uphold the current laws of his home state when he is elsewhere. That is like saying if I worked for the state that I have to believe the laws against dogfighting are good and correct. I don't believe that, I don't have to believe that, and the government has no right to tell me what to believe, even if they are my employer.
Invalid argument sir. Public official have to be held to a higher standard than the common man. For example, both you and I may be "pro dogfighting," but if that is the case we have no business being at the forefront of upholding "anti-dogfighting laws" in any state, do we? The government may not have the right to tell us what to think or believe in general, but the government (and, more importantly, the people you serve) have the right to know what you're thinking as it pertains to the very leadership position you hold.

For example, I promise you, if either you or I were ever in a leadership position at HSUS or PETA ... and it ever leaked that we were "pro dogfighting" inside ... and went to other countries (where it's legal) to watch and participate in dogfights ... we would lose our leadership position as flagships "against" dogfighting so fast it would make our heads swim. I mean, if in our hearts it was discovered by the people we were, in fact, pro-dogfighting do you honestly think we could retain our jobs?

Again, it would just be a false-front on our parts. No one will ever follow any leader who doesn't even believe in what he's at the head of ... nor should they have to. And further, in a democracy (rule by the people), if the public consensus is that he's got to go ... then he's got to go.



Quote Originally Posted by TFX View Post
In fact, because this fellow is an expert in the field of wildlife conservation, he likely realizes the insanity of the illegality of hunting mountain lions in California. They continue to endanger the well being of other wildlife, the livestock of those of us who live rural, and because of an exploding population of these cats due to the lack of a legal hunt, they are now turning up all over in populated areas too and have even attacked people.
Well, with all due respect, my opinion is exactly the opposite. The most "exploding" population of the world is the human population, which is what has wreaked havok on every other animal on the planet, and our never-ending spreading across the earth like a pestilence has ransacked (if not destroyed) the natural ecosystems in so many places globally, that there aren't many places left for these creatures to live anymore.



Quote Originally Posted by TFX View Post
I personally don't give a damn what the law is. I have had them come out of my creek and up into my pastures, luckily for them it when I was not home both times. If I see one on my place; which threatens my dogs, other livestock, and my kids, it is shoot-shovel-and shutup around here. A legal hunt of cats would keep the population in check. And hunting cats is not necessarily for trophy only. Lots of people swear the backstrap and other meat is delicious eating.
Well, this is a whole other subject and digression unto itself. I can't say that I wouldn't defend my own property from the encroachment of a big cat that was threatening it ... because I would. But I damned sure wouldn't go out of my way to go into their territory (where they're minding their own business trying to survive) ... just to kill them ... especially if I were in a leadership position trying to protect them in another state. And I further wouldn't be posting photos of my doing so online.

I mean, really, this guy doing what he did would be like Wayne Pacelle of HSUS going to a dog fight in Mexico ... and taking a bunch of photos with chopped up dogs giving two-thumbs-up and posting them on the internet ... and then wondering why he didn't have a job as head of HSUS when he came back. We both know damned well that the, "Yeah but it was legal there," argument wouldn't fly.

So, like I said in the beginning, "For where your treasure is, there your heart will be also." This guy likes to kill big cats, so he really isn't going to be a convincing as a leader in the community trying to protect them. You may have the right to believe in dogfighting, and it may be within your legal right to go to Mexico or Japan to watch them, but for you to think you can be in a leadership position against dogfighting ... and that the public and your peers will sit still if they find out that's what you really believe inside ... is absolutely unrealistic.

Jack