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Sometimes re-creating something from the past is really hard to do. This is the first breeding between Damien and Holly.

Damien was owned by a guy who would not have a Red Boy dog, not have one period. He had a yard full of rough ass game Eli bred type dogs and they could all bite. He was hard on the dogs and although I think he put some good ones down along the way...if it was on his yard and two years old it was just as good and as known game as any other. Tough place to hold down a spot.

Holly had a brother Ch Charlie (4XW). He was maybe the best dog I had ever seen. The owner of Damien saw him and was really impressed, even if he was 50% Red Boy. Then he saw the sister Polly (2XW) and she was not as talented as Charlie but she was all the more determined. I felt like she got the short end of the stick on show night. We all pooled together, everyone had a vote, but the actual owner made the final call. I voted to move on to a better situation. The owner went with it and she proved she had the heart to overcome.

Holly had the heart of a champion as well and the decision was made to cross the two families.

There were 7 pups in the litter and six went to the show with a 1st time out record of 6-0 for the six. Doorstop was #7 but he ended his career early with bad habits. He was flat teethed by 16-18 months and was down to the gums by 2 years old. All being said, he may have been the best in the litter except he did nothing of record but stop other dogs. No W's.

The owners of the other six asked for a repeat breeding as the first litter was doing really well at the time. Holly came in heat, the breeding was done and I think it was four or maybe five.

Average run of the mill later. I think there was one winner, a couple three curs and a couple three game plugs.

I think you have to pick some traits from the past and add them to the new dog-going forward.

If picturing the new dog as the old dog in hoped of recreating-I think there is a lot of room for disappointment.

Good luck.

EWO