If you pursue Yellow John and those first Cottingham dogs the Jocko is already there just not papered that way.

Big boned, dumb as a stump, and the majority would scratch all night. The ones that did those things but could bite are the ones we talk about still today.

An older fellow once told me when a Red Boy dog could bite that was Mr. Krebbs coming thru and when they could not bite it was Mr. Teal coming to the front.

EWO