EWO, excellent remarks on the schooling etc. When I had all those books years back. I read somewhere maybe the Armitage book about a walking pre keep getting fat off dog first. Then get the dog tired and take a look at the dog in the schooling. I did it very similar to that. I even had a bitch, a Green Bay Packer line back that had no teeth. That would slam em and gum um, was easy to break her off. LOL

Earl Tudor did not believe in schooling the life out of a dog to test for gaminess. I saw dogs in schooling go through something that was more severe than a show. Turn around next month and do it again to the dog. When the dog was finally shown. Quit because there was nothing left in the dog. I to believe there is a stopping point for any of them.

How a dog is fed from the time it is conceived in the brood bitch till two years old and kept in good health plays an important factor to winning. My brother was an excellent Game Cocker. He had Field Marsh Butchers not really sure about the name breed. Took excellent care of all his Chickens. Got a simple conditioning keep from R. Morris. He won way more than he lost.

You are right on about breeders getting little recognition. Many times, good dog men get certain dogs and do not wish to let anyone know where they got their dogs. Some forty years now, my strain of dogs is still out there, and some are still showing well. Way things are now. Not to wise to want any recognition on anything. Cheers