Ditto EWO II. Once again you have nailed it. Why we liked the Chicken necks and backs. Use only the amount of Kibble that was used to reduce the dog in the pre keep. Those necks and backs had plenty of good bone and the right balance of protein and plenty of fat.

Dog was kept on weight by not adding more kibble but more chicken necks and backs. I feel with enough greens/ one tablespoon of non-fortified nutritional yeast/one tablespoon of desiccated liver. Maybe a few other items for raw feeding. May need no kibble feed period.

I am guessing a dog feed the raw way would shape up faster. Probably the feed cycle on the last three days would change from 30 hours to 26 hours. Never got to do this so really do not know.

I will always wonder when I saw Rowell hiding that Alpo Chicken meat canned dog food. When I walked out in his back yard that day. He had a dog working his table. He stopped everything until my visit was over. I probably need to call him if his # has not changed.

I remember that Maffie fellow that wrote two very good novel books on Pit dogs. He conditioned his dogs on some sort of vegetable feed keep. He did well in competition. Had some well-bred dogs.

I knew a successful dog person that fed only corn flakes or some type cereal with the Chicken meat that last three days. Cheers