Breeders.

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Well said.

Hindsight being 20/20 I should have bred more dogs and should have forced myself to being a breeder.

It has always been a headache for me to deal with bitches and puppies and all the things that go with that endeavor.

I never once thought about leaving a mark or creating a legacy or seeing my name in a pedigree. That never did anything for me. I am really thankful others think differently than me and have put in that time.

In the late 70's as a kid I remember the very first 'lesson' I got in these dogs (actually listening to the guy that turned me onto the dogs give advice you a young guy in his 20's getting into the dogs...as a kid I was a sponge and soaked up any and everything bulldog).

He told this guy the dogs were about winning. Nothing more and nothing less. And if he stayed in the dogs 2 weeks, 2 months, 2 years, or 200 years, if you decide to get out, enjoyed your times with dogs and dog men, and no one never knows your name, that is mission accomplished. Even as an old guy in the 70's and 80's I think he could see where society was going and how 'unpopular' a person would be who was involved in the dogs. (I might be wrong, but this also came from a guy who was busted twice for the dogs, once making the National news. If you have ever heard Tom Brokaw say, in other news, "and see your two childhood heroes being escorted by the police for dogfighting" you get the importance of anonymity.

But with that said, I do appreciate the people who committed a large part of their lives making a mark and leaving something behind.

Nice post.

I think we discussed one of your Holland bred dogs some years back, Ladybird. Her littermate Bobby was a bulldog who in turn threw bulldogs. I had a winning female out of him bred to a Mims/Snooty/Molly Bee bred bitch.

EWO II

[Frank43]

Well said.

Hindsight being 20/20 I should have bred more dogs and should have forced myself to being a breeder.

It has always been a headache for me to deal with bitches and puppies and all the things that go with that endeavor.

I never once thought about leaving a mark or creating a legacy or seeing my name in a pedigree. That never did anything for me. I am really thankful others think differently than me and have put in that time.

In the late 70's as a kid I remember the very first 'lesson' I got in these dogs (actually listening to the guy that turned me onto the dogs give advice you a young guy in his 20's getting into the dogs...as a kid I was a sponge and soaked up any and everything bulldog).

He told this guy the dogs were about winning. Nothing more and nothing less. And if he stayed in the dogs 2 weeks, 2 months, 2 years, or 200 years, if you decide to get out, enjoyed your times with dogs and dog men, and no one never knows your name, that is mission accomplished. Even as an old guy in the 70's and 80's I think he could see where society was going and how 'unpopular' a person would be who was involved in the dogs. (I might be wrong, but this also came from a guy who was busted twice for the dogs, once making the National news. If you have ever heard Tom Brokaw say, in other news, "and see your two childhood heroes being escorted by the police for dogfighting" you get the importance of anonymity.

But with that said, I do appreciate the people who committed a large part of their lives making a mark and leaving something behind.

Nice post.

I think we discussed one of your Holland bred dogs some years back, Ladybird. Her littermate Bobby was a bulldog who in turn threw bulldogs. I had a winning female out of him bred to a Mims/Snooty/Molly Bee bred bitch.

EWO II

I am a control freak and very particular. I’m going to end up building or modding anything I do. I like taking care of pups. I think you can tell a lot about dogs as pups. My gut feelings on dogs as pups has been on so far. The more dogs and choices you get the harder it is to making it into the gene pool.