Quote Originally Posted by EWO II View Post
I guess it can be like a jab and then the degree of the impact starts separating one job from another.

There were a couple Larry Hoomes fights where he wins if he never throws the right hand. Some of the jabs Douglas landed on Tyson were really impactful.

Some of Ali's were nothing more than 'distance makers' for something else.

Some jabs set things up and some jabs sting, and some jabs actually hurt and some jabs are just there to keep someone away.

Charlie's jabs were the hurting kind.

EWO II
I can’t find that picture. There was a dog glued at a 90 degree angle to the other dog solid face hold. In Mma and Jiu Jitsu there are dominant holds and angles. It has to be one of the most dominant holds possible. I guess that’s where you have to really watch and see if the is a plan. Like watching that Ali fight. He knew Liston had power but he controlled the distance. Ali had speed and power in his hands but not like Liston or foreman. The whole fight he’s back pedaling hitting him with jabs and baiting him for that pull back counter. It’s beautiful. Like the a team. I love it when a plan comes together.