I personally like reading and posting Iron Mike's old rants ! He would call people out in the journal etc , good reading and he was a funny old bastard !!! Should be presertved some where . Why not here . Bulldog history . Loved to squabble on boards etc too . I remember you used to have to have a couple references , now you just need a couple social media pages !!!! An ole pals brother is getting out of prison soon. They followed him for over a year coast to coast , pig picking , yards etc before the arrest . His brother told me their were informants in every circle . Shit Mr.Bill just got popped . I'd be careful if one wants a life in these dogs . Once the drug dealers and big $ showed up alot got smaller in their circles . Some just like doing their own thing , Butch Kizenbaw and a few others I knew were like that . Does that make them anyless a dogman ?