Self I may have posted this to you in a private message. Not sure since I have not received a reply. My question to you is why you wish to buy and breed extra-large catch weight APBT dogs?

Are you training Guard attack type dogs? Or big dogs for hog hunting, The Great Dane are extra big dogs and excellent for boar hunting. Which was what they were originally bred for. Go on the You tube can see one in action being used in Florida.

There were some years back a man in Virgina that wanted nothing but extra big Pit dogs for Attack and Guard work. He even used steroids on the puppies to grow them big. Overtime it was all a big flop. He also bred a lot of curs which can be very dangerous to the general public.

Overtime selecting and just breeding biggest dogs. You may end up with a more bulldog throw back and less bull terrier type characteristics. If so, the original Johnson American Bulldog can fill that bill.

Now finally and not wishing to say anything out of the way to you are anyone else. You seem to want to locate certain type dog men that are no longer in the dog game. Have either moved to other countries to maintain their privacy. Have no wish to be contacted by any newbies etc.

These dog men stay within a very private group and desire to live and let live. They could care less about big dogs, medium dogs or small dogs. Just that their dogs are pure bred and are deep game.

Now for me first and all of us. Never be too naive to believe any of these apt dog sites. Will not have a Peta or Humane Society agent posting. Trying to fish for information to learn the lingo dog talk and dog history.

Why most of the best older Carver etc., family of dogs are in Mexico and owned by family groups only. They never sell/give any dogs to just anyone. Majority of the time to no one. Cheers CYJ