Old post that was very interesting.. I believe what Wac was referring to the first generation Red Boy/Jocko bred by Mr. D. Green, which were straight out destroyers!! The second wave from Fletcher were not as heavy Jocko as Mr. Greens batch. But just as devastating with heart!

Mr.Green was a great breeder and had equally good dogs.

I have seen a few off the original blood. There was a reason they were popular years prior.

With the Wac line they didn't start letting their blood out until the late ninties early two thousand. With that being noted.. Many ruined the dogs early and then cried foul.lol.