Redemption kennels is either in SC or Georgia ( I forget which). Their dogs came straight from Mr. Jackson. Most of theirs are the dogs that made Thug.

The only thing with the off spring when he was Mugger Man is that they could be off anything. His owner at the time, (and not trying to speak ill of the dead, RIP) was a con artist and a swindler. A stable full of well bred dogs but I think he enjoyed the swindle/swindling.

My buddy had one of Mugger Man bred to Kay Kay. Looked like Mugger Man spit him out. Clone. Bumped into a guy at a show in SC who had one off Grunt and Kay Kay. Born a week apart. One ADBA registered and one BFKC registered. Both pups looked identical.

Finding one after he was Mugger Man will be hard enough based on the time but knowing how he is really bred back in the mid 2000's will make for a lot of questions.

If it is the Jackson family itself message CYJ on this board. He is the most knowledgeable person on the planet other than Mr. Jackson himself on that family of dogs.

EWO