there is also a guy that gets a breeding pair from a good breeder. From working with the dogs he knows their traits. He knows how hard it is to get you hand on a good dog as an outsider. He breeds them and monitors the pups. none are peddled. none are risked until loses can be taken. Maybe its risky or less than ideal. Sometimes a loss hurts more than other times. by looking at the dogs he tries to figure out what is coming from where to lock it in. its not really peddling. its less than ideal.