And then I will add another variable on overall impact or winning matches?

Overall impact from the poll I would go with Yellow because he was down out of Red Boy and a Hank bred Jocko dog. I would lean toward Yellow because those first Jocko-Red Boy dogs were hard mouthed, rough, durable and all night game, just dumb as a stump. Affectionately referred to back then as dumb ol' Jocko-Red Boy dogs. From there with the addition of the Bolio (Hollingsworth) we get to the Mayday family (which may need to be on the list as well). So if we start with Yellow the number of wins has to be higher, or at least as high, as any one dog out there.

But if I went with over-all impact to the game which would include winning matches, selling puppies, and puppies bought just to be bred to sell more puppies the list gets very short and Red Boy becomes a no-doubter. There are no lines out there in the last forty years that sell puppies like Red Boy. A "pure" Red Boy puppy will sell faster than any other line out there regardless of the parents nor the owner of the dog. There are tons of 'pure' Red Boy dogs out there that, just like their entire six generation pedigree, has never seen the box but kept someone's brood pen full at every given opportunity.

At the same time there are lots of people who work their Red Boy dogs but seldom are they successful when they are pure or even heavy.

Then factor the Red Boy family crosses well with just about anything. Jocko-Jeep-Eli-Bolio-Snooty-RBJ-Mayday. Just about anything.

Over all impact my vote would be Red Boy but he did not make the list. From there I would vote Yellow.

Great topic.

EWO