The Hank dog carried the Zeke dog in the pedigree. Mr. Young says he looked like them dogs. So when the Jocko-Red Boy dogs met the Hollingsworth-Bolio type dogs it wa snot all much that of another out cross as there were some lining of families again.

Again, for the tell tale sign is dogs that throw dogs that throw dogs that keep throwing dogs.

The next sign is when the RBJ dogs are crossed they do well for a generation or two, but then those dogs do not typically stand alone. They have to be bred back toward the RBJ or the out dog to get that train going again.

I also would add Red Boy was bred to Bullet dogs and those dogs were hit and miss, and it was the start of Red Boy dogs "not being stand alone dogs" and the tales of 'Red Boy dogs can't bite'. For me, that means there was the Red Boy litter and then the "RED BOY LITTER", both papered off Jeff. That would mean Red Boy absorbs everything from the Krebs side of the story as well as everything bred from the Teal/Jeff pedigree.

That is why the Red Boy dogs are all over the place when they are bred pure (paper pure).

But again, all conjecture.

EWO