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I have heard it both ways. The first time it was Red Boy himself. Then another time it was the sire of the litter that Red Boy came from but papered as Jeff.
As stated, I don't know. I was not there. This is the point where a person's character is questioned and I am not a big fan of doing so, especially putting someone on blast on the internet. LOL
I'm a Red Boy fan. I will say of the Red Boy dogs Mims Jiggs has thrown those dogs that I picture in my head from 40 years ago. The Holland dogs did not do much for me until I seen dogs down out of Cadillac II. The Cadillac II dogs are about as close to stand alone pure Red Boy dogs that has been out in a really, really long time. They flashed back to those Jocko-Hank type dogs of Mr. Jackson and Mr. Chavis. Thick hided, durable, rough ass dogs, lot of forward moving power. Go figure.
The Jocko Red Boy dogs, if theories are correct, would be 3/4 Krebbs type dogs and a 1/4 out on the Hank dog. The Jocko-Red Boy dog breed so consistently you can see one a mile away. Like take one picture and they all seem to fit the mold.
But again, pure conjecture. LOL
EWO
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