The bolio and tombstone line of dogs.

[EWO]

I like the breeding on the Carter's Flame. Like you said before we can talk about pedigrees forever.

I bred to LadyBird's brother, Bobby. (when BH had them both). I bred to him not because of his posted pedigree (Straight Red Boy) but for two other reasons, one, primarily for what he did in the box and two, I am of the belief that they are Vernon Jackson dogs on the top.

In your pedigrees that go back to the Jackson dogs that made Jocko, those were some of the dog I cut my teeth on many years ago as a young kid.

Mr. Holland bought several Jackson dogs along the time the Cadillac II dog was producing. We had dogs down from those dogs (being Red Boy fans) and they crossed well. Then all of a sudden the Holland dogs from Cadillac II were rough, and durable and thick hided with a certain Jocko look to them.

The two that BH had were like that as that litter did not fit in with the other straight Holland/Cadillac II dogs.

We bred a Mims Red Boy/Snooty/Molly Bee bitch to him and got a couple really nice ones.

When BH hit that bump in the road Bobby and Ladybird were going to come here until he got to a better place. He got what he wanted for Bobby and I never heard from Ladybird until you posted some peds a few years back.

Good family of dogs. I was happy with what I got down out of Bobby. He threw us a real nice bitch. I wish I had bred to him a couple more times.

EWO

[SBCK]

You said that your dogs give RBJBT more prey drive,I'm saying the ones I have OWNED,BRED and SEEN had very high prey drive.Litters had to be separated early.A psychotic scream on sight of other animals.I'm not disputing that some other lines have traits that are stronger in areas then these dogs.Maybe the strains you have seen were different. And I'm not a RBJBT kennel blind type I love them but I actually prefer Eli/china man type dogs.The dog on my profile is actually my favorite dog that I have ever owned and he was an eli dog.

[bossman311]

Good stuff .
Thanks for extra history EWO !

[CrazyRed]

I like the breeding on the Carter's Flame. Like you said before we can talk about pedigrees forever.

I bred to LadyBird's brother, Bobby. (when BH had them both). I bred to him not because of his posted pedigree (Straight Red Boy) but for two other reasons, one, primarily for what he did in the box and two, I am of the belief that they are Vernon Jackson dogs on the top.

Mr. Holland bought several Jackson dogs along the time the Cadillac II dog was producing. We had dogs down from those dogs (being Red Boy fans) and they crossed well. Then all of a sudden the Holland dogs from Cadillac II were rough, and durable and thick hided with a certain Jocko look to them.

The two that BH had were like that as that litter did not fit in with the other straight Holland/Cadillac II dogs.

EWO

Interesting but you're not the 1st ol timer that i've seen mentioned that. Buddy of mine was down there close to Holland and he had was a very hard believer in some of those dogs being Vernon Jackson or Carver bred when that Cadillac II blood really hit. Said the dogs power and durability changed tremendously even adding punch that some were not really known for.