Frank43, the good ones are just where you find them. AS EWO said about making a same breeding of proven worth dogs. Yet that next litter with the same Stud x Dam end up a over all flop.

I am not advocating to breed quiting dogs or cold dogs. Up to the individual,it's their kennel and their money. If a litter of dogs show good and one is a cold dog. Maybe put the dog aside for awhile longer. Check it out later, particularly if a female. See if the bitch can throw some good dogs. An example would be the full sister to Patrick's Tombstone. Another would be V. Jackson's Hank. If V.J. had shot Hank at two years old. Would be no Jocko/Red Boy dogs of today. It takes some experience to tell the difference in a cold dog and a rank cur. Some still will use that as a excuse to keep and breed a rank well bred cur. A lot of our pedigrees will have some.


Jones of Rebel Kennels did just that and won some serious show matches. I am sure he did not continue down that format. Some of those dogs he used from J. Crenshaw were still one generation from some proven dogs.

Do not fool yourself that all of Patrick's dogs were deep game. Just because his name was on the pedigree. Nor that all his dogs were bred like he said. Back when I was in the game he was well known for stealing good dogs and changing papers etc. He was smart enough to steal good tested and bred dogs. LOL Just a matter of days before Patrick left the state of Oregon. Him and some side kicks of his, visited Mr. Orbie Coplin, who was now up in age.

Brought some dogs to roll and test. Mr. Coplin got the best of Patrick and stopped at least one of Patrick's pride and joy. Mr Coplin made the mistake of showing them his dog yard and where the dogs were located. By the next evening three of his best dogs, two that showed really good in the rolls. Were gone and never seen or heard of again.

There is no exact science or monopoly on the game dog. Being a higher genetic form of animal is always hard to tell how the results will play out. Knowing what I know today and was still in the game. Would rather be a sought after conditioner than a breeder.

To spend countless days/hours feeding a large yard of dogs. Takes a lot of money and over time keeps you from your family. Can suck the life out of you. LOL Cheers