Tacoma bust

[Frank43]

this is true. this is why i don't breed a lot. why i like hard workers. i saw a guy bragging how his dog looked without doing work.these are the lazy fools that believe its the dog not the man. there's no consistency. they don't know their line ie average turn on times, traits etc. roll young and dump. Usually leads to dogs running loose in the streets. they don't know how to put a dog down, so they show up in shelters after surviving gunshot wounds. that's why i focus on a line. They are prob the reason stuff is illegal and should stay that way. Should be a way to let the responsible people do what needs to be done. I Know my dogs. You don't end up with a yard of 400 dogs while you try to find the superstars. They end up hoping on a superstar. even if they get a b grade dog that could be better with work they will loose to someone they should have beat. as it has been said “Hard work beats talent, when talent doesn't work hard.” Maybe people end up in prison who should be there. I wish sometimes the legalities were different. I have to fight the urge to call a weight when this guy thinks his dog will win because of who he's out of. I already know this story. Find a medium talented, super game dog with wind and brains. Get to 30 or 40 minutes and stop their rough curs left and right. Then you're this phenom. Now everybody wants to buy your dog. your name gets out there. Then peta comes. then irs, le etc. I long for the day it was a gentlemen's game. It prob was never a true gentlemen game. Just a game for rough type dues. Blacksmiths like tudor, coal miners etc etc instead of good people mixed in with drug dealers. Mayfield beat a lot of people with conditioning. One of the old time doggers said if Mayfield gets you to 30 minutes you're gonna loose just go ahead and pick up. You're right about the breeding thing. You try to work out places for dogs to go before they are born. Most of my litters from here on wont be fit for pet homes. Just hog hunters and historical aficionados. Its just funny when people hear a dog has a shitty work ethic and they want it thinking its some 15 minute killer. Makes me want to call weight and take their money. i know centipede didn't work. There are alway exceptions. He was a phenom. It would be dumb to breed a yard full of dogs with no work ethic.

[BRICKFACE]

Having that many dog in a metropolitan city is just not smart at all. Unless you have 2-3 reliable ppl helping you it's way more than one person can handle.

[Frank43]

True.

[Cowboy666]

Makes you think what is truly ideal? I got three dogs looking on adding a fourth fortunately I have someone I trust to feed and walk when work calls for longer days. Decent sized yard, full basement and garage for additional space if needed. I truly don't understand how folks living in the city limits have several dogs. I do understand how these dogs could be an addiction though. We make a routine and soon your like yea I can add another and so on.

[Frank43]

Makes you think what is truly ideal? I got three dogs looking on adding a fourth fortunately I have someone I trust to feed and walk when work calls for longer days. Decent sized yard, full basement and garage for additional space if needed. I truly don't understand how folks living in the city limits have several dogs. I do understand how these dogs could be an addiction though. We make a routine and soon your like yea I can add another and so on.

I think people get start struck sometimes with these dogs too. I grew up wanting pups off this one dog. I didn't have a 1000k to pay for a pup. You get to a day you can have some of these things. Then you can pay a stud fee and breed to the dogs. Then you get obsessed adding this bit from this dog and this bit from that one. Hey all these pups will sell. It doesn't happen like that. I had my first litter in the house. I had a kids wading pool in front of the couch. Watching and handling pups, changing bedding two or three times a day. They got great care. Reason I say this is I know they personality of the pups from the beginning. I know people build puppy pens. Im sure it works. I feel like i know my pups. I know which one grabbed a hold and was a pain in the ass getting off. I know which ones couldn't figure out how to get out in the front of the crate to get to the food. The same food the same way we have been doing for weeks. Basically she's a jocko dog. She's still the same way. Only reason I say that is that people think they need so many dogs. They don't know enough about their dogs to maximize what they have. Somebody said on facebook something about the old bull and the young bull. The whole let's walk down there and fuck all the cows vs running down and fucking one. I think the point is what you said about knowing what you can feed. I have a bad situation know. I know my horses have a round bale that can feed them another week or two, I have a pasture i can tie them out to eat grass. My dogs have food. I think he got over extended. My friend said he was trying to sell dogs like he knew he had too many. Sometimes stuff happens to teach a lesson. My first litter was like that. I thought I would get more for them than I did. Especially for the time I put in. Evo said its a time drain. I believe him. Id do it again. Now people are satisfied with the pups they got. and are wanting to buy the two i kept for myself. I'm really not trying to sell pups. Just be able to have a little concentration of blood, buy dog food and vet bills. Honestly even if I lost money I'd rather keep what I use. I don't want my blood out.


Carrying capacity is a concept some people may benefit from learning. Basically with cattle and horses there is a number the system can contain. Water wise, food wise, parasite wise. I'd try to stay under it and if I got over it I would immediately try to get under it. To me the four I have now is too much. I'd like to get to three while i work on a place outside the city. I'm in a suburb my I keep my dogs low, on a leash and under control. They don't give me a lot of grief. I hope he gets it straight. I think the loss of mentors makes some things like this happen more often.

[brokeback]

His first mistake was his location. The pacific northwest is full of tree hugging hippies that have different views on how dogs should be kept then down in the south. I know people with large yards in populated suburbs here in the south.

[Frank43]

His first mistake was his location. The pacific northwest is full of tree hugging hippies that have different views on how dogs should be kept then down in the south. I know people with large yards in populated suburbs here in the south.

This is true. There are some of those tree huggers here. I care about the dogs. I don't want to see them starving or abused. If you are going to do what they are bred for then take the responsibility for their after care. Ca Jack has said this a lot, how people are eager to tear a dog down, but can't put one back together. If you can't start an Iv and give fluids and basic medical care you need to get out. I don't know how much of Vick's stuff was media hyperbole and how much was reality. It looked like they just rolled them and tossed them back on a chain. That dog with the pussed out head with the drain was ridiculous. Maybe the people who keep their yards clean and stay low stay clear of problems. Someone was here that said they had a yard full of a hundred dogs and they used to roll dogs every day. If ac shows up you have forty or so busted up dogs. "yea we had twenty kennel accidents the past month." "Riiiiiiiiggggggtttttt" I still believe if you are lucky enough to get good stock in the beginning and can feed and condition you can do well with 5-20 dogs. Like Ca Jack said, "most people can't keep something alive." those are the skills that win more than having the super athlete with gator jaws. Yea at the highest levels that makes more of a difference. I guarantee most people can't call a weight right. Come in on the right weight. Condition and train a dog. It's prob more rare of a trait than people think.

You're right that's a good part of being in the south. We have out humaniacs too. More often if you're not stupid you don't get jammed up by them too often. Just have to avoid them and keep your stuff straight.

[SBCK]

In my city you can’t legally own more than 3 without a fanciers permit.Then you can have 2 more for a total of 5.

[SGC]

It's not a good world for bulldogs any more. You have the "save them all" mentality and the "kill them all" mentality. Plus way too many pit bull types and mixes being adopted out to unqualified pet homes. The real bulldogs are certainly not for everyone, most do not make good pets in the average home which expects a dog to lie around and do nothing. A bulldog needs exercise and work. There are "pet bull" types with no drive, which makes the average folks think they are all the same.

Having that many dogs in a city living in a garage in crates is not right. That's no life for any animal let alone a dog. And bulldogs certainly can't live together in a group like some other breeds. No, Frank43 has said it well. It is not easy to keep these dogs properly. And so many location regulate how many dogs you can have, plus the anti chaining laws so popular now. Any hunting or working dog is better off on a chain with a good house than in a small chain link kennel or a crate inside. Sad times for real dogs of any type, not all dogs want to sit on the couch and eat bon bons…

[brasso]

https://q13fox.com/2020/02/19/pit-bu...-for-adoption/

So this dude hasn't been charged and no one is sure if he will ever be charged. Yet they take his dogs, gut the females, chop the males and put 'em up for adoption. Absolutely fucking insane. What an absolutely corrupt and unjust system. If only this poor bastard could afford a real attorney...