If it is a roll and a schooling session then it is just that, a roll/schooling.

If two people agree to do their dogs and there is a referee and it is conducted under a set of rules, I do not see the difference in what the gathering is called, a contract or an OTC.

If two people show up and one is on weight and one is not, there is then a decision to be made. The smart money says collect the forfeit and drive away. That does not happen very often, unless them missed weight is a huge amount, 2-3 pounds over. Less than a pound most go ahead with the show. Most collect the forfeit and do the dogs anyway.

So if a dog is worked for a show, and one misses weight and the show goes on, this is a contract match.

If two people agree to do their dogs, and the weights are not the same, and they made the call on short notice, this is an OTC, which is frowned upon.

And I agree sometimes OTC is not actually OTC. Some will work their dogs prior, and I agree on the weeks of work mentioned above, and then making the call with more work than the next guy. I get all that.

Maybe the disconnect I have is that people think they can be set up in these dogs. That is another thing I have trouble understanding on one can feel he/she can be set up in these dogs.

EWO