Boudreaux hands down for me almost all of carvers success can be attributed to dogs bred by or down from Floyd's dogs. its funny that everyone says tudor when every old timer that knew him that I spoke to never considered him much of a breeder he had some great dogs yes indeed. Carver was out of this world with the dogs he produced. those two for mw are 1A and 1B. from there id go with guys like Patrick, garner, tant , Hollingsworth, thibadeaux and a few others im surely missing