Quote Originally Posted by EWO View Post
I would not doubt any of the story except the part about rolling him one day and shipping the next. Even in the best of times, that would never happen.

I too saw Frisco and was with a guy who bred to him on the old Bulldog Hill. Frisco was lively and outgoing on that particular day. He was not overly friendly nor was he overly outgoing but he was not at the other end of the chain spot like some describe.

By then maybe he had realized his lot in life was to be 'cootchie-getter' and not a 'go-getter and his demeanor was different. That I do not know.

Fortunately for the game someone bred the dog. There are tons and tons of winners off of him. Then there was a stretch where things went south. There were a lot of Frisco dogs that were devastating and had incredible finishing skills, but out of that bunch there were a lot that would walk away.

Tons of families go thru the same thing.

Then all of a sudden Frisco was throwing hard mouthed game dogs, both durable and with finish. My best guess is, like a fine wine, his sperm got better with time.

Most stud dogs who become famous have similar stories. A lot of time the dog catches the knock for the decision made by people.

EWO
Unless there is any merit to the stories of T.G. using TVK'S Rusty Rebel (Cottingham/Boudreaux') who had a stay on Bulldog Hill while his owner was on "vacation". Bull-Finch who was staying in T.G.s guest house for a time swears up and down he and T.G. bred the balls off of Rusty during his stay. I guess it all boils down to what one wants to believe. Wonder though what traits a Cottingham/Boudreaux'/Frisco/Lee Ling cross would throw eh. Not my blood so it makes no difference to me either side T.G.'s or Bull-Finch's, for ''conversation'' sake though....



I have over the years spoken to both T.G. and Bull-Finch on more then one bulldog subject, listened to stories from both men.

When asked about Rusty Rebel, T.G. goes off on a chest beating rant and his truth is the dog was never bred during his stay on Bulldog Hill. Bull-Finch for his part has always quietly maintained his truth on the subject and has/and does still work with a Cottingham/Boudreaux'/Frisco cross.

I also had a chance to talk with TVK and when asked about Rusty Rebel, TVK was of a mind that his dog was better then any Frisco bred dog, when asked about weather or not he felt T.G. had bred Rusty to any of his bitches and registered them as being off of Frisco he just laughed and said no comment.

Again though, if you run the blood it's up to you to decided for yourself who's truth it is that you want to believe. From what I have seen online people defend T.G. like he was kin to them and his word is as good as gospel, I guess his word alone is good enough for them and if they feed something off of his yard, that's all that really matters is what they want to believe.

https://youtu.be/8t7rQNUFUGU