There is no doubt this site is dead on the day to day conversation but with that being said I'd rather it be the way it is than like that shit show over on online peds. This place is full of valuable little nuggets of information if someone takes the time to sit down and actually read rather than scan through here looking for a daily dose of drama. The folks I know don't have an ounce of interest in all that kid stuff. Facebook and online pedigrees has the market cornered on that nonsense.. let them have it. It's hard enough to own dogs these days, any serious dog fancier worth his salt who is looking for longevity with this breed will stay away from all that drama.