Quote Originally Posted by AL Clown
:o Alot of good info I never even considered any of this..in the 2 breedings I have done with her I tried to linebreed on related dogs that were more intense. But I was only looking at what was written on the ped without knowledge of any of the breedings as you have just explained.
My hopes was to find someone with a true interest and the knowledge to make a thoughtout well-planned breeding and maybe loaning her to them for a couple pups back.
So now that people have a better idea of what type of bitch she is as well as how she is really bred let's see more ideas...Thanks Jack!
There is nothing wrong with linebreeding your bitch, as any select side of her pedigree would produce good dogs. I don't know the Kasai dog personally, but I do know he goes back to essentially the same Patrick blood I have known since I got in the game. I have personally known of Cheryl Tiegs' performance ability (as well as her real breeding) for more than 2 decades. In fact, I bred Dream Killer's Cuervo, a 3/8ths Cheryl Tiegs dog back in 1993, precisely because of the relatedness of Tiegs to Lady In Red, whom Truman was 3/4-bred off of.

The very first bitch I had purchased to breed to Truman was a direct daughter of Cheryl Tiegs in Rio, again specifically because I knew she was really off of Little Tater. When I bred her to Truman to get Rosey's mama Little Bootie, I then bred Little Bootie back to Cheryl Tiegs' son Rick Rude to get Cuervo. There were 3 pups that lived, and the one who was matched (Cuervo aka Tequila Sunrise), proved to be an exceptionally-game bitch came from way back to stop a daugher of HOE's Ch Herc in 1:20 ... so I am quite familiar with the blood

(Speaking of Cheryl Tiegs, and the Maloney dogs in your bitch's ped, another interesting factoid that bespeaks the consistently-winning combo behind your bitch, is that Cheryl Tiegs was also bred to the Maloney dog Patrick's Copperhead to get Jackson's Mr. Mean Guy (not on Peds, but a brother to this dog), who won in 4:55 in one of the longest matches in history 8-) )

Anyway, based on what you're telling me, your bitch has both the blood quality behind her, as well as the methodical long-distance ability inside her, to be a truly foundational brood matron in alignment with The X Factor Stone City was kind enough to reveal to us.

Because of your bitch's fine quality, and because Cheryl Tiegs is a really a niece to Ch Hammer (not to mention the other Hammer/Little Tater blood behind your bitch) ... and especially because you're looking to add speed to your bitch (while I am looking to breed my male to rock-solid bitches with true staying power) ... I would think Silverback would be an excellent choice to breed her to

This truly is not a sales pitch, LOL, it is just what I sincerely believe would be what you're looking for, as Silverback is the most exceptional all-around male athlete I have ever had, while the quality and similarity of blood would be what I am looking for in a gyp to breed to him while he is still here.

So let me know if you're interested,

Jack