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I know the man who owned Big Liz and the whole history of these dogs. A lot of my dogs carry dogs off of Josie down from Liz and her littermates. Josie was her mother and whoever put the pedigree together just got it wrong. Here is a little discussion we had about how peds-online had some of his breedings all screwed up.
Some of those pedigrees are wrong, I don't know who posted them. Starbelle aka Bellestar and Wilkerson's Jitterbug were littermates, both sired by Bullrat out of Little Liz. I owned both and bred both. Bullrat was by BobTale out of Big Liz(Peterson's,Merritt's, Koehler's, or Langston's Liz all the same bitch-Bull x Josie-). Little Liz was by Bad Company when he was bred to Liz, GiGi was not involved in these breedings at all, however she was sired by Bull to Josie(Bullyson x Miss Spike) not the pedigree listed in the Black Jack ped.
Big Liz, ch Noah, Clyde, Samantha, Gigi, Onionhead were all sired Koehler's Bull(Sorrell's) bred to Peterson's Josie.
A little history, one of the Mayfields c & h Starbelle and beat the first daughter of Chinaman to hit the Box with Mr Vin(my definition of top of the line class dogman).
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