pedigrees

[sam i am]

as far as it being garner's amos well that is what it is and pretty much the only breeding that amounted to much was the breeding where stomper was born and tom did not make that breeding there are 8 breedings on this site for amos and tom made four of them. snake man made almost as much according to this site. Garner bought the dog when he was older he did not breed him or raise him. just because he has his name attached to the dog does not make what he says mean more than others. he has his name attached to chinaman to but i and a lot of other people think of chinaman as V&B's Chinaman since they were the ones that made him a household name. basically it is semantics he buys the dog sticks his name on there and magically people forget who made the dog which was i believe woods and abernathy and the people who used the dog for his intended purpose which was V&B. you are correct i don't like the man personally i believe he is everything that is wrong with the breed. he lies for one thing and has been caught falsifying peds is he the only one of course not but he still does it then he sells these dogs to anyone with some cash and sells to people who should not own a dog nevermind a purebred APBT. hell just in september alone according to his site he had 23 litters on the ground that is ridiculous. not only that he has the nerve to say he is the best breeder of these dogs 23 litters say they average 6 dogs a litter, that is 138 dogs produced and he will sell everyone of them and keep none for $1,500.00 a piece that is $207,000.00. i would love to see the percentages of good dogs out of 138. let's say 30% work out which is a low percent that is 41 dogs. To me that is the epitome of throw enough shit against the wall something is bound to stick. i just believe the man brings a lot of unwanted attention and somehow walks around free. there are just too many coincidences surrounding him.

The man makes some damn good points!

[EWO]

That is very accurate.

I'm his biggest fan as a business man. It is a model any young business person should follow. Forget the product as any product could be plugged in, but it is the model.

I met him once as a young kid. Again at a show some years back. And then at his pig picking year before last. I went to meet CYJ in person. If it were not to meet CYJ I would have been doing something other than baking outside in that wicked heat that day.

He sold two puppies that day. I saw a guy walk from behind the fence with two puppies and we were both headed to the parking area down by the road. I have no idea what he gave or what they were bred from. No idea. I am guessing based on advertisements they were in the $1500 range. (But like great business, it could have been these are the last two left and I need the brood pen so it could have been a two-fer deal) Regardless they bought two puppies and two gallons of water. We get to where the cars are parked. The guy has SC tags so it was good little drive. They put the dogs in the front seat. They lifted the hood. They did not check the oil. They just added a quart so I know they knew they had oil issues. They opened the radiator cap and added just about a gallon of water. One guy walks back up the path and refills the gallon jug and off they went.

I have driven some junk in my day and I an not knocking on that in the least. More than likely I have set out to go further driving worse. But never did I spend well over a thousand dollars on puppies when I was so close to walking back and forth to work.

So forget the dogs. Think about the business and the marketing he has accomplished. Pure genius.

When you plug in dogs the term peddler may apply. Look at the Olsteen fellow in Texas. He sells what people are willing to buy. From the outside in he is a crook but he fills the building every Sunday. Cars. Real estate. Horses. The actual product does not factor.

EWO

The man makes some damn good points!