Agreed.

My point is that I believe the Dopey/Jiggs stuff to be correct and they throw the same. I have a female out there that might as well be Brandy Girl herself.

On the Holland side there is much speculation that those particular Holland dogs in the pedigree are not down from Dopey/Brandy.

As far as Ramera and her lineage. Low percentage dogs down from the Snooty/Molly Bee/Chinabuck type dogs. Granted they could all bite but percentages were low. The kicker is that when you had one that would stay you could ride up and down the road with anyone. The ones that were game threw low percentages as well. This factors as well.

This factors as well. If he were an easy keeper, laid back, slow on the chain Snooty/Molly Bee/Chinabuck type dog, like the others I have owned, I would have pulled the plug earlier because it would be cold but leaning toward the lower percentage strain.

But since he is more Red Boy like and a lot like Skull I have decided to wait. Maybe his fourth birthday will be a magic pill.

I was mostly using him as an example as there is a difference between cold and simply choosing not to know at all.

EWO