EWO I'm not sure I understand why you're hung up on the Holland blood as a decision maker on this particular dog. Especially being the fact that particular strain is basically Mr. Bulldog x Brandy Girl just like the Mims' Dopey/Jiggs stuff. If you're familiar with those dogs being late starters this strain shouldn't change things much. Now me personally I'd be looking at the Chinabuck portion of that ped to ask those questions. Especially since it's concentrated on Chinaman who didn't crank until 4.

We each have our own methods to breeding/using certain dogs and I respect that. I just personally wouldn't use any dog lacking the very trait that I was looking for unless they were the last of the mohicans and there was no other choice to preserve a particular line.

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