Agreed. Then not so much.

I'm not a Hollingsworth fancier so I can't comment on them as far as cold dog producers.

I will agree if a cold bitch from a cold bitch is bred, the chances, and likelihood, of cold bitches would increase. On the other hand if a cold bitch pops up and the majority of her brothers and sisters, aunts and uncles, and parents and grandparents were bulldogs then the odds of her throwing more cold dogs go down.

That is where the experience comes in with an entire family of dogs of the same strain. If I had bred 5-6-7 generations of those Hollingsworth dogs and had success a high percentage of the time I can make a better decision about a cold dog.

If I go out and buy my first bull dog, or even my first Hollingsworth dog, and she turns out cold I am on a slippery slope if I breed her.

http://www.thepitbullbible.com/forum...p?dog_id=48127

This dog is going on 4. He is cold. In my younger years he would have been culled at 2. He had a ~cousin bred similar from the same dogs who did not turn on to well after three, close to four and then won four by the time he was 5 1/2. Skull threw some good dogs along the way as well. I have given Sluggo that same chance.

He will get one more bump to start and if he shows no interest I will give him away.

The bottom side has Ruby a deep game winning bitch with a lot of finish. Out of Bobby, one of those thick hided, durable and hard mouthed Holland dogs and Ramera a deep game bitch that scratched after having her shoulder socket exposed (GBK Sugarfoot 2XW). Never walked the same. Her top side is out of a Boo who proved to be a match dog and in turn produced match dogs. Mick was a deep game dog who threw game dogs. We owned a lot of dogs out of Rainbow dogs never seen one quit,Backed up by Jiggs who threw rough and solid mouth Red Boy dogs.

I'm waiting on Sluggo. I have thought about breeding him as he is a good looking dog, well bred, yet cold. The only reason that I will not breed to him is that the only experience I have with the Holland strain is what I have seen in Ruby and Bobby. Bobby had a sister who I heard was a fair dog and another sister who made one half hearted scratch and the GAME box was checked in order to get to the brood pen. Not enough personal experience which is more variable than I am comfortable with when breeding.

If I had a lot of Holland experiences, seen a lot of Holland dogs, and felt comfortable the hard mouth, thick hided, durable dogs were indeed straight Holland dogs I would be inclined to breed to Sluggo. Based on all involved. Since that is not the case I do not I have enough information to breed to him. But if I did......

With all that said I am not a breeder. I always left breeding to the people who were willing to put their product out there. What little I breed stays at my house, or within striking distance. I only breed bitches when there are chain spaces available. The cold dog to hot dog opinion, is just that, opinion.

EWO