http://www.thepitbullbible.com/forum...p?dog_id=48127

His parents were both bulldogs. Ramera de Negra was a fair dog, a lot of brains, no mouth and a whole lot of heart.

We had one bred really similar to Sluggo and did not show interest til 3 and did not fully turn on to 3 1/2. Won 4 by the time he was 5.

Good luck with the Holland pup.

EWO