what would you do with this?

[bossman311]

well, I did say that i'm aware color doesn't matter. no i'm not basing on ped and color. I know what theses dogs background is and they come from some damn fine animals. I also understand there are no guarantees. JACK would say he no doubt could pick the best pups from a litter at an early age. I like most people don't have that ability.

I guess this is what I was trying to get at. since there is no way of knowing for at least another year and a half - to two years which ones were the better dogs. would my safest bet be to keep the pups that at this age look like what the family is known to produce. rather than take a chance on these two dogs that don't look anything like any of the dogs I have seen produced by this line in 20 years. and believe me I have went through a lot of peds and litters, trying to find something that resembles these two.
BOSSMAN your post did help some. the one dog I was speaking of that these two resemble I should have just asked if it was possible, since they look so much like him if they carry more of his genetic make up, since he was a outcross their traits would be different from the family i'm breeding around.
anyway like I said, it's not about picking the best at this early age or what color they are. it's simply what some thought would be the safest route for me at this time.

In the end it probably was not the best idea to ask, other people what they thought about what i'm trying to accomplish.
And I probably could have been a little clearer in what I was asking.
lesson well taught, lesson well learned.
ps. if someone could explain in more detail about the hybreds (hybrids) and if they have a place in a breeding program without being offended that may also be helpful in the future.

I have been breeding working dogs for over 40 yrs.
There is not a single person on here with more hands on experience.
I have turned a few dogs into more than one family strain of dogs.
More than most who have wrote books or been written about.
Those that haven't the 16 generation hands on experience as I have.
I have bred over 100 litters in my time & went thru all of them.
Most these days don't even have a clue about Punnett squares or Gregor Mandal.
It does not take 18 months -2 yrs to know a dog .
If you have hands on experienece with each generation for more than 4 generations you should know it like the back of your hand.

Selling the most dogs to the public & actually working the most dogs you feed & breed or two complete different things.
That's what pedigree shows & nothing else.

There are guarentees when if you get on the level oh having hands on with 4-8 strait generations or more. You just have to get on that level.

If someone has that many & still doesn't have a clue about how they will turn out than they are just cluelss period.

If you have actual concern & want actual facts & results then here is you true answer.

Personal hands on experience & can tell you what is what before even breeding pair with more hands on experience per dog ,per generation than any one on here.

http://www.thepitbullbible.com/forum...p?dog_id=57855