Quote Originally Posted by BRICKFACE View Post
As a breeder do you have high hopes? Or know you might be on the right track when your pups turn on early?

Or is it an indication of future potential? but by no means is it a guarantee?

Is it all of the above? Or pups being pups?

You hear of dumb asses putting pups through the ringer and culling them before they mature. By two years that same pup could have been special in competent hands.

How do you rate hot litters?
I'm New to this site but old to bulldogs.
Been around them for most of my life over 40yrs. I was the 1st inspector, judge & state rep for the AAPBA in the late 90's in Colorado. I wrote an article before in a magazine the ADBA Gazette yrs ago Starting from Scratch based on breeding's.
All of that is to say this.
I am one of those dumb asses you are talking about culling before they mature LOL.
That's what dog men should do if they are responsible & not peddling.
You know when folks get on my level everything you know is different from what others think.
If a pup shows defaults YOU CULL. Why would you hold onto a pup with a birth defect?
But others reasons for culling young dogs are simple. It goes with what I said about my level. It took me well over 2 decades & going thru whole litters to gain the knowledge of my family.
A knowledge that most never seen nor will see. Breeding for specific styles & age of when to see the styles.
So far you'll see my name 12-15 generations in the dogs I feed. That's knowing each dog,belly mate & 1/2 siblings to that dog you see in the pedigree, not just the dog in the pedigree. I went different directions from start to current in breeding with these dogs. Owning dogs for 40yrs in one thing . Breeding dogs is another. You can own only 4 dogs & have seen only 4 generations in 40yrs if you wait until they are 10yrs old to breed. You can have seen 5 times as many if you breed them @ 2 yrs old when they are old enough to compete with. It's up to you but each way gives different knowledge of dogs, breeding's & bloodline.
I have yet to shake hands with some one who has handled more dogs per generation . Not to say they don't exist but to say I haven't met one.
After 4 generations you know the basics of your family. How old to see what in them & what to look for. You just know. After 8 strait generations you can tell long before that dog is 1 which direction it's going. You just can. But once you have personally handled 12-15 generations I could tell you by sex ,color, early behavior & parents what to expect by what age in most cases without needing to see the dog.
This is not something someone with 6 or 7 may try but someone with 12-15 generations knows.
They more you actually see ,hands on, the less you guess .
To do this means to be & stay consistent. 12 generations of head dogs that start up before 1 yr old won't go rear end & late starters over night.
Not every dog turns out, they just don't no matter what or how you breed, but the ones that do, no worries.
If my dogs don't have it in them @ a certain age then it's no wise to waste time on them.
Allot have came off the bitch on fire & stayed like that there whole lives & past it on gen-gen.
I breed working dogs.
Not papers ,not tittles & never names of breeders.
Working dogs.
Hope don't mind me putting up different peds, but once again "NEW" to this site & have far too many dogs to create a ped in a few days.
Example of @ least 12 strait but 14 hands on generations.
The only true knowledge is hands on knowledge.
http://www.apbt.online-pedigrees.com...&dog_id=574954