Quote Originally Posted by CYJ View Post
Hello Prince, if all will allow me. One of your questions was what blood lines cross well with the Sorrels' dogs. So I will add a little fly to the ointment from a first time personnel experience I had. When I was visiting R. Bass in Dillon S.C. at his home. At that time Bass kept Red Boy and the Cleo bitch at his house.

Now this was my personnel experience and a statement I made that day. When I for the first time saw the Bass' Cleo bitch. I asked Bass point blank was this bitch a Bert Sorrels bred bitch or had Bert Sorrels breeding in her. This Cleo bitch was built and looked like the type dogs Bert Sorrels was breeding back then.

Now 35 years or so later, some topic discussion comes up about crossing various blood lines to the Red Boy dogs over on the on lines pedigree site. At that time I was not a member of this site or even knew it existed. In this topic it was mentioned that one or some dog men had great success with Red Boy crossed with some Bert Sorrels' dogs.

Later on I ran across this on lines pedigree site, pedigree. This pedigree was dog id=446664 that showed the sire to Bass' Cleo bitch as CH Sorrel's Number One Son.

in my discussions some months back with Carl Mims, he insists that Cleo was bred out of the Bill Cotton's Bullet dog. Being he is my elder I never argued one way or the other with him out of respect. I have seen several Cotton Bullet bred Bitches in my lifetime and no dogs on Katie's yard ever looked like a Bullet bred dog or a Colby marked or Colby looking type dog. JMHO.

Now as to finding a good rugged strain of the Red Boy dogs to cross with your Sorrell's dogs. Try the best of the Holland dogs/Bailey crossed Red boy stock. Check with on lines pedigree member, Deacon86. He has that Snake dog. Shown on this site as K. Jacksons' Snake. K. Jackson and Deacon86 are one and the same person.

The Holland Red Boy dogs generally are stouter, longer/tougher skinned/ bigger boned/harder mouths than some of the other Red Boy blood lines. I have a pretty good idea why, as does member EWO. He can tell you more in a p.m. message. Well for what it is worth, good luck to finding a good cross for your dogs. Cheers
, I run Hollands Red Boy with my bloodline that has Sorrels blood with Number one Son in it as a part of the base because of same rumor. http://www.apbt.online-pedigrees.com...&dog_id=574954