That's why it took 3 times....I have explained to another member on this borad exactly what transpired and tomSub as well...I just dont want to put my business out there...to be honest i chalked it up as maybe it was the inbreeding that had her barking so much...however I controlled that by bringing in the house.....and making the other mad as hell...treez honestly I did everything till I said forget it....and bought a bark collar....well you still have to take those off....yap.yap.yaap...and I still said fuck it she stays......because I considered her to valuable hence my thread.....

Anyway Sub IS a cool dude I never stated he wasn't. I love MY CRASH DOG from him...also to be honest he didn't directly send those pups this way from his yard I dont think....so maybe he didn't really know the condition of them....

Like I said earlier he can have his pup back...no problem...