Quote Originally Posted by R2L
Jack im the last one to say any pup is next level.
Then why are you trying to make such an exaggerated point of stating that your pups "don't get along?" That is unfortunate, but all I want to do is show my pups getting along and having fun here, not debate



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Maybe my words were chose incorrectly, sorry we learn english from movies
Fair enough.



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Like i said, unfortunately mine do not get along, so im doing my best to socialize & school them as good as possible in other ways.
Like I said, that is unfortunate, because if your pups lack the capacity and intelligence to be useful/trustworthy in other important ways, then they are essentially limited "only good for one thing" animals by definition, which is NOT what the best of this breed are all about. (Notice that I distinguish best from what is common and ordinary )

As I mentioned in another thread topic, my Pretty Boy dog was fully-started by the time he got his first shot at 6 weeks, and he won his first deal at 16 mos in 2:42, so I know what early-starting dogs look like. And I also know that "being hot" has nothing to do with athletic ability or intelligence, nothing whatsoever, as I have had plenty of dogs that were not as "hot" as Pretty Boy but who had far more ability.



Quote Originally Posted by R2L
In the end all that really matters is the on button, IMO 8-)
Well, as was revealed in the Man-Fighter thread topic, what you just said is incorrect. A truly good dog should be able to direct his "on" button intelligently. A dog that doesn't have the sense to do this is a liability. A dog having the sense and stability of temperament to be able to distinguish "friend from foe" is a vital trait to a truly complete animal.

If you would put a dog down for attacking your wife, or child, then in point of fact you DO value something besides an indiscriminate "on" button. And if you don't want your dogs attacking people at all, over and above your family, then you want the dog's "on" button to be even further revised and his judgment to have further intelligence and discrimination. You just haven't quite got it yet that truly badass dogs really can take it to the next level and recognize "friend from foe" amongst other dogs and animals too, which (whether you believe it or not) is an even higher level of intelligence and stability of temperament.

However, I do realize that sometimes it is nice to have a "fully-on" dog in your hands


Quote Originally Posted by R2L
Back to the pics!!
Yes, that would be a great, to be able to just get back to a positive environment and simply enjoy the pics

Jack


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