Quote Originally Posted by R2L
I believe you Jack not saying its a accomplishment but why would i try to change something i like to see.
LOL, I didn't ask you to change anything, I merely posted pictures of my pups playing 8-)

It was "you" who were acting like your pups were at some "other level" by not being socialized, or able to be socialized, which would be a characteristic I personally would not enjoy. Again, I like dogs that are able to do it all, as opposed to dogs whose intelligence (or temperaments) limits their usefulness and adaptability to each situation.



Quote Originally Posted by R2L
I also believe in the positive things you got to say about letting them socialize, can't see why it would it do any harm. but you're naming some dogs who're getting a long other dogs and were supposed to be the best and completest dogs, sorry i dont believe that.
Well, I am glad you believe in the value of socialization. As for your beliefs regarding the very best dogs being able to be socialized, their owners stated these great dogs were the best they ever had, that they were able to get along with other animals when not "on the job," and this came out of their own mouths.



Quote Originally Posted by R2L
No point to name all gr ch who were never socialized with other dogs. The dogs i got my hounds from weren't either yet as intelligent as can be.
Dogs not being socialized, and dogs not being able to be socialized, are two different things.

The former is related to the dogs' owners not bothering to try, implying no limitation on the dog itself (only on what their owners chose not to do with them); while the latter implies a limitation on the dog itself, thereby reducing its usefulness and completeness as an animal.

Jack