INDIAN SONNY'S BOLIO DOGS -- BETTER THAN PATRICK'S?

[Officially Retired]

I can see both points also, and really, it just comes down to what the owner wants to do more than anything else. Me personally, if a dog is a winner, and somewhere along the way starts producing winners regularly, it's time for the dog producing the winners to just stick to producing.

That is how I always thought, as a breeder.

However, as sort of an historian since concocting this site, and after crunching the numbers, being involved in a DOY selection ... and spending enough time NOT breeding dogs ... I am starting to think that dogs with the potential ought to have that potential realized.

Also, I am starting to pull my head back far enough from "the trees" of my own bloodline to see the forest of all lines ... and what combinations have produced multi-winners more frequently than others.

If you're wanting to show dogs, and you have a dog producing those type of dogs, what would be the point of showing him again and possibly ruining what you have going at that moment. That is how I look at that type of scenario. In the same vein, if I were to show a dog and I saw the type of gameness I wanted from the dog, I'd not show him again even if he did win.

Again, that is how I have always looked at things, from a breeder's standpoint, as well as a "he proved he's a bulldog" standpoint.

Even from a realistic standpoint, a dog that really had to show a lot of gameness is typically shot after that. It's not really fair to make them have to do that again.

The amount of wins isn't much to me given most things. If the dog is a destroying, generally bad dog with bad intentions, then yeah, I'm probably going to continue showing that dog until I feel the dog has had enough OR the dog shows the bottom end I'm looking for.

Again, I have always felt this way to an extent.

As a breeder, I didn't need to have Silverback "win" ... I knew he had winning traits. Winning 1 or 10 wasn't going to make his sperm any better.

However, as mentioned, from the point of view (now) as sort of a record-keeper and historian, I wish I would have given him (Stormbringer, Icon, and some others) the chance to go all the way.

Strictly from the standpoint of breeding, I knew all I needed to know to make effective breeding decisions.

However, regarding the history of the sport, and and REALLY seeing if they could take their place in history, and where they'd stand, I didn't even think about that before.

I sure do now ...

Jack