Please look at the pedigree for Fox's Dottie. I guarantee that Tudor's Red isn't bred that way...lol... He is way back in the pedigree of my dogs and Hunter Red wasn't even thought of at that point. Unfortunately, I cannot tell you how he was actually bred. My ADBA pedigree doesn't go back that far.

http://www.thepitbullbible.com/forum...p?dog_id=12346