I agree with you guys. At the end of the day everyone's eyes are different. I posted yesterday saying that a particular stud is consistently throwing dogs that are extremely game, smart, and know how to finish. I'm not the owner of the particular stud so it was not a sales pitch and last I checked he was not at public stud. Some guys like to fly under the radar so you don't get a chance to read all the stories. I say extremely game because I have seen his offsprings consistently go the distance with the odds stacked against them when under similar circumstances other ones would quit. When I speak on finishing, I am talking about his offsprings consistently leaving the other one stiff in the [ ], not dying a few days later because of poor aftercare. I use the word consistent because I have seen it from a bunch of his offsprings on several different occasions.